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Old 05-28-09, 10:56 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by Aramike View Post
Heh, hell no. I, for one, guarantee that many people on this very board would be thinking about doing the same thing in the same situation...

...however, it doesn't make it right, as much as I'd like it to be. Suicidal people make things difficult as it is hard to punish those who don't really give a damn any longer. That is, until they feel the pain of a couple of broken bones.

Look, I don't advocate pushing any suicidal individual over the brink. However, that being said, I have to ask ... why give a crap? If you're standing on the precipice you better have made your decision, as far as I'm concerned.

If this person really wanted to die, he didn't need to do it so publically. What this person wanted was attention - but he clearly didn't think about the individual he caused to lose his job due to tardiness, that may just kill himself over being unemployed and unable to support his family, but will do so quietly...

Or maybe he did think, and didn't care.

In any case, cops should have nets to fire at fools like this. However, jump or no jump - idiots have no right to interfere with the lives of others.
I totally agree with the last sentance. Idiots thinking and acting as it's a good idea or nothing really wrong with the fact that they themselves, as a private person, decide when to interfere and push other people, suicidal or not, off a bridge should stay well clear of others.

It's no crime to feel that suicidal persons, those lacking the determination when on the edge, or those feigning it for attention, should be pushed off, be it for a helping hand to die or punishing their selfishness by some broken bones or a good scare. To me, that, or "why giving a crap" mostly shows lacking acknowledgement of all the different conditions and situations that can lead a person to become suicidal or act as suicidal, and what to do about it in a responsible way. In many countries suicide is the most common cause of death between 15-44 years of age. It clearly seems to be something to care about, even when someone already is on his way over the railing of a bridge.


In this case the pusher was indicated as suffering from a mental illness of some sort, which might tell us something more about how to view his actions, and possibly any desire to go through with the same as he did.

I don't really know what to make of your saying, that even if some people probably would think like the pusher, it doesn't make it right, although you somehow would like it to be?
In what respect do you want it to be right then? Would you like some change on how to treat suicidal people, or people on the edge of a bridge, be it high or a bit lower, or in public view? Or is it a change about how to view individuals who walk through and then pushes a distressed person off a bridge. The whole take on the issue seems to still be a bit undecided or unclear.


Time for todays running. I'm really looking forward to the uphill training... not.

Porphy
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