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Originally Posted by Skybird
If you accept arbitrary justice beyond our civilisational standards of checks and balances, what makes you different from the GeStapo then, hm? You defend to use the methods they used, but do not want to be compared to them, eh? At least that can be understood. Who would like to be compared to them... Set your justice system back on track regarding the issue discussed here, like it is America'S claim to be a shining example for the rule of law and justice and democratic checks and balances indeed, and the comparsion to tyrannies, banana-republics and GeStapo will end. Behave like these, and get rightfully compared to them.
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You missed the entire idea of the post Skybird. First, Obama just got handed his 'NO' we do not agree on just closing this down without a plan and the 11 million is not coming until a plan is created and approved. Second, Congress is looking and listening after all. They are just not making rash decisions(as this one was by Obama). Obama needs a plan first before going in head-long saying the base will close.
Jim summed it up very well here:
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Seriously though......If there is no contingency plan in place around deportation or whatever, you may well find they go underground, regroup and start committing atrocities in your backyard.
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Steamwake was correct here:
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Well it sounded good at the time and thats what counted
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You went off on some dissertation that we are nothing more than the Gestopo. You chalked it up as a no win situation because of Bush era laws. Well, here you are incorrect, Obama can win....think of a plan first! That is all the Congress asked. Laws, Constitution, they all have been taking a piss on both for years now. What is the difference today? Furthermore, I did not read one article were European countries were afraid Obama would send these detainees to their countries. I would think that would be darn smug of Obama and to say the least, ballsy? If such articles do exist, it was nothing more than a ploy to sell a few papers. Non-the-less, Gitmo will be addressed but it needs to be address carefully.