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Old 05-20-09, 02:36 PM   #38
Dowly
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I think we have enough of 'conspiracy' threads already to make a new one. If the original posted wants, he can contact moderators to separate this post and any following posts that this might cause on this particular issue.

Right, Waco. You know, the tragic event on 1993 where the Branch Davidians were holed on their 'compound' on Mt. Carmel which eventually, after 51 days, was brought to an end with the whole compound being burned down completely by either the Davidians themselves or by CS gas grenades that were fired by FBI/ATF/Delta operators (or observers as it's mentioned in official papers).

Ok, at first, I'd want to say that I really cant decide who is to blame about it. I'm neutral. But I'd like to know what everyone thinks about it?

Meanwhile, I just write here few of my questions that I have about it (mind you, these are questions that were brought up in the congressional hearings):

1: Why FBI lied about not firing a single shot, when there has been supposedly found fired cartridges at one of the sniper points (Sierra one, I believe it was).

2: Why there is key evidence missing? Namely the front door, that was a metal door(Would show if shots are fired by David Koresh thru the door as ATF says). ATF/FBI agents clearly said in the earlier hearings that the door is missing. They had it, but it's missing. Same goes for the video tapes that were made of the initial ATF 'assault' at the front door. All three tapes at the initial point that would show who fired first(Davidians say that Mr. Koresh went to the door and after a brief talk, a SINGLE shot was fired from outside) are blank (again, admitted in the hearings).

3: Charles Schumer. Was the hearing neutral? I think everyone who has seen the tapes about the hearings agree that Mr. Schumer wasnt neutral in any point. He even tried to argue that flashbang (or flashpack as he called them) arent lethal with an officer of an USMC reserve!

4: FBI used no explosive ordnance. Yet, unexpended flashbangs and expended CS grenades were found from the scene.

5: The crime scene was completely destroyed without investigation (that comes from the Texas Rangers that were there).

6: Bulletholes in the bodies + the FLIR tapes that the supposed (I havent looked up if the guy really invented FLIR, that' why I say 'supposed.) FLIR inventer looked and confirmed that there was automatic fire fired to the only remaining exit after the fire had erupted.

7: Choppers didnt shoot. Yet, there was lots of bulletholes in the roof. And there is some photos that show a mounted machinegun on the chopper (which shouldnt be there according to FBI). Also, the FLIR footage apparently shows shots fired from an hovering chopper.

And there's much more that I cant remember atm. But like I said, I just want to hear what ppl here think about it? Was it a revenge from the government part for the 4 agents killed? Was it the Davidians that torched themselves? Was it one gun-ho agent that fired first and started the whole siege?
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