[Torpex752]

Hey Aramike & Monica, I assure you I am not motivated by conspiracies....I can look at things critically with my own 2 eyes, that’s why I say look at what is said, not who.

I do find it sad that they get called nuts, wackos, idiots, conspiracy theorists, and a host of other names by the people we are "respecting to give us the truth". I find that strange. I mean, it really strikes me as odd to call someone with a different angle, or idea a wacko. But then again the men who said we could put a man on the moon were called wackos by quite a few......years later..........The Eagle has landed. So name calling serves no useful purpose.

All I suggest it to be open minded to the possibility that there were other elements at work. I know if I built those towers I'd be fired up if someone told me that they fell from the very thing I designed them to withstand. I'd be all sorts of pi$$in mad. I know how it is when I do maintenance to something mechanical, and it fails and someone says its because I didn’t do the maintenance. And don’t forget 3 towers fell that day...the 3rd a 47 story that was never hit by a plane.

Foundation damage, seems unlikely since they fell from the top down..of if you agree they did fall from the bottom up, then what foundation fails on a perfect perimeter to allow the building to fall in its own footprint. If it fell over, that would fit that theory. In any event 3 perfect foundation failures in one day..

Aramike, you mention motive. But Yet I cant give a motive without getting branded a conspiracy theorist. If I give a couple possible options, other then the ones mentioned in the past years will I get branded a conspiracy theorist? So if I do refrain from making any guestimations because of threats of name calling, who benefits? In any event, if you look at the 3 elements of a crime, means, motive and opportunity, that’s how you look at a crime scene regardless of who the criminals are.

My beef is that anyone who disagrees with the official story is branded a nut, a wacko simply because they believe in something other then the advertised story. So if we close the door and say that the planes were the cause, how have other current high rise sky scrapers been corrected to prevent this? Absolutely nothing has changed. In other words, follow the official story like a different type of disaster or problem. Auto recalls, jet liner malfunctions, bridges collapsing, trains colliding. they get analyzed down to the absolute root cause leaving not one bolt, poprivit, or weld left unexamined. And thats usually for 2-300 deaths. Not one weld, bolt, or pin was examined or analyzed. And then the steel that the NIST team did look at that was showing signs of erosion (melting by an external source) they called unexplained. Yet they state that the fire caused the steel to fail.

I listened to the audio files that recorded the explosions before the towers fell. The video of a car shredded before the towers fell. There are some strange things that were never explained, and I honestly believe that they deserved to be explained .
Listen to the firefighters;



I can tell you my motive is that I know steel..not in the scientific sense, but in the practical application sense. I am not supporting the theorists; however I am supporting the factualists. the guys who build the tallest buildings out of steel, a substance that is tough, durable and very resistant to shock. They guys who say those towers shouldn’t have fallen from plane hits and fires have a leg to stand on, have some good practical information and facts, yet are called kooks. Sad day in America.

Lets play devils advocate...since this group of Engineers has only one other idea, the govt doesn’t have to spend loads of time disproving a dozen other theories, there’s only one other possible scenario being proposed (and its not aliens LOL), why not allow it to be openly discussed? Give it its day in court/hearing/whatever. If these guys are nuts, they ruin their jobs and all the 9/11 truth .orgs fizzle away. We do still live in a free and open society? I hope.

I also hope no one gets emotionally twisted thinking that because I posted this stuff that there is any shred of belief in me that those who perished that day deserve any less reverence then they have. I was active duty that day, and their loss brought a stream of revenge out in everyone I was with that day. Nor would any discovery of anything change how we feel about them, the victims.

Frank