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urthermore, a former Vice President of the US says they work, and there's proof,
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that would be the former vicepresident who is well known as a liar and has a track record of claimng there is proof when all there is was fabriction.
So what Cheney says is about as believable as Ted Haggard claiming to not be a poof .
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A terrorist organization itself is illegal and immoral. As such, activities that directly support its mission are illegal and immoral.
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Torture is itself illegal and immoral . As such, activities that directly support torture are illegal and immoral
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This begs the question...what the hell were Bush and Co including Pelosi doing in 2002-2003?
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Thats an easy question , what they were doing was breaking the law and telling people under them to break the law.