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I have no once attempted to redefine reality.
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You have repeatedly attempted to redefine what constitutes torture.
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Huh? You're confusing me with someone else. I couldn't care less about the definition of the word.
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Is that why you keep trying to show that waterboarding isn't really torture when by definition it is torture?
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The LEGAL definition is what matters. Legal definitions are defined and redefined constantly.
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Good point , can you show any ruling that redefines what constitutes torture to back up your actual views or have you just done an epic fail ?
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In fact, I've even acknowledged that the Bush administration was trying to get the legal parameters of torture changed).
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Well done you prove my point , the attempt to get torture redefined failed because what they were trying to claim was not torture is obviously torture.
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The debate is whether or not the practice should be allowed.
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If it is illegal it is illegal , throwing the rule of law out of the window destroys your way of life and the values your country is built on
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But, just for fits and giggles, let's look back at what you're referencing, shall we? I said, "So what do you call beheading American civilians and non-combantants?" Which, was in DIRECT RESPONSE to, "If American soldiers were being waterboarded by an enemy, we'd call it torture."
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Murder is murder and torture is torture , it doesn't matter who does it it is still murder and torture .
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The point was pretty simple in scope and message, but I'll spell it out for you anyway: Americans (and civilians) ARE being tortured, but for some reason we don't call it that.
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Bull**** , visit the Pearle website , lots of newpaper links and politicians quotes there about Daniels torture and murder , though of course his family is strongly against the use of torture .
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Again, you might understand my point of view or see it as a non-issue for me if said 9/11 incident happened in your neighborhood.
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Such arrogance , where were you on that day ? who did you lose ? How many funerals were you at in NY ? who have you lost to Islamic terrorism before then ?
Don't try and come high and mighty with such views as you really havn't got a clue and are a relative newcomer to the problems of terrorism.