Like I said this is one reason I like TMO with it you can pull off surface attacks without much trouble so long as the DDs dont have radar which they often wont until well into '43 and you have the proper lighting condtions an attack on the surface can work fine so long as you are using mk.14s on the lopnger range setting you can get off a good attack with no troubles most of the time.Even though TMO makes the AI much smarter and therefore harder it also does a better job of making condtions have a more life like effect on how well the AI can see. My S-boat attack with the deckgun was a rare example of how sometimes the condtions can work with you in TMO. We are talking about surface attacks here not how we do a none surface attack. If you load up TMO where you can perform a surface attack if you know what to do it can be done but it is not easy at all it is like messing around with the farmers daughter and not getting a load of rocksalt in your ass from the old man and his shotgun.
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