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Old 05-08-09, 07:57 AM   #51
NeonSamurai
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Originally Posted by Geno_Mariner View Post
I should do that to my oldest bro, so many times I tried to get him to quit. Succeeded for a short time then find him with a cigarette in hand.
Won't work, you will never succeed in making someone else quit. They have to do it on their own because they want to do it for themselves. You can and should though support their efforts to quit when they do decide to.

I have to say that a lot of the comments and suggestions I have read here don't hold any scientific weight at all. There are no magic treatments that will make you stop smoking, and very little that will make it much easier. About the only proven thing that can help a little is the nicotine substitutes (which can ease the physiological cravings), but those can transfer the addiction if missused. In the end you will succeed or fail based on your own motivations to quit, and your own willpower to stay that way. August is absolutely correct in his assertion that "commitment and personal discipline" are key.


Now about that quitting smoking book..

I have to say from initial examination that I am deeply skeptical of the effectiveness of the book (or therapy sessions), and that my initial examination raised a lot of red flags. For one thing its very obviously a money making venture. Second I looked at the often cited research studies and found them to be very flawed in their approach (they have a huge problem with confound variables, lack of a control group, etc) which pretty much nullifies their value in my view. There are also other factors at play which can explain why the book may be a bit more effective (including the fact that people who purchase something will very often rate it higher, and believe that it worked, simply because they put money into it). Testimonials are also worthless as there is no way of knowing if it was the book that was the major reason for success or other factors.

To those here who recommend it, I would question if it was in fact the book that got you to quit, or was it really your own willpower and desire to quit, along with other factors that was the principal reason why you quit. A lot of people find it easier to succeed when they attribute success to an outside influence (God, a book, etc), and as I said when you put money into it, you have an investment to justify in your own mind making you more prone to validate that investment.


Anyhow I'll end off with the some links to quitting smoking from the Canadian Government. I like their site as its clean and direct, and most of all backed up by hard science.

Main link
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/tobac-t.../index-eng.php

5 Stages to quitting
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/tobac-t...etapes-eng.php

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