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The formula establishes nothing.
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So statistical probability means nothing? There are a lot of scientists out there who would disagree with you on that...
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One of its factors is totally impossible to calculate (the odds of a planet sustaining life)
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Not really. I mean, we've already found several distant planets similar to Earth out there, and more importantly, we've found water on local moons here in our own solar system.
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and several of the other factors are easily fudged to generate any possibilities that you care to.
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Such as?
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You have no way of knowing whether there is any other life in the universe or not. It seems that a "scientific" person, such as you claim to be, would demand proof (or at least evidence) of said life.
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Well if you want the best evidence, I need not look any further than the AH84001 meteor. The most dramatic piece of proof from it is the presence of microfossils of what is apparently nano-bacteria (it's positive for amino acids, just so you know) that looks like several types we have here on Earth, only much smaller. We know it's from Mars, so technically, you've got ET life.
Now you've got people who've created rebuttals on AH84001, but since 1984, we've compared two other meteors that have origins from Mars (Nakhla and Shegotty) that have seemingly confirmed the authenticity and validity of AH's meteor. There's a possibility that it's not what we think it is, but the overall evidence is pointing to it being perfectly valid and uncontaminated by mistaken information or accidental exposure to third party sources.
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Again, this is where you use common sense. Do you really believe that all of that just came from nowhere?
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Well there are plenty of people who believe this god character was just always there. If he's always existed, it's just as possible the universe has always existed, especially when you consider that we are actually part of the universe and can see it and know it exists, unlike a god.
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If I used that kind of "common sense" in a debate regarding the existence of God, I'd be laughed out of the room by the so called "scientific" types (I believe you fall into that category).
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Well in the first place, we wouldn't even be debating this issue in a scientific classroom/forum since science doesn't bother comment with experiments and tests on the supernatural to begin with.
So really, you're not very scientific by believing in God...
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Why should I accept that "logic" when you're attempting to argue your point?
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I don't care whether you do or don't.