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04-26-09, 05:03 AM

Interesting thread, I read pretty much everyone's reply. Very interesting to read about German opinions about their past.

As a Finn we sort of have similar problems concerning our history of WW 2. Some Finns volunteered as Waffen SS and there has been some debate about these guys and how much they should be honoured etc. It's pretty common to see usually young guys on the streets wearing hoodies etc. with the images of Iron Crosses on them, either that or some kind of 'respect the veterans' message. The way I've understood these is that they are a kind of 'response' to the Che Guevara - t-shirts etc. I would not wear either but I think that the wearing of these iron cross images is a Finnish thing, I can't imagine seeing them in Holland or even the UK.

I don't think there has been a 'monster' in the history that has been buried and shamed as much as Hitler and his cronies. France had Napoleon and he has a very respectable looking monument at the Hotel des Invalides (sp?). I remember reading that when Leo Tolstoi, the great Russian novelist, visited Paris and saw Napoleon's grave monument he was astounded that the French would have such a positive monument to such a monster and enemy of Russia.

I kinda sometimes wonder about some of these people who seem to have such a bottomless fervour about the WW2 German armed forces, for example net sites like Feldgrau.com etc. I know these people are not nazis but are they, perhaps unknowingly, sort of eroding the line between nazism and what they claim as genuine intrest in WW2 and the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, etc.?

And slightly OT, Capt. Haplo, I'm not sure if the slave reparation issue is truly and well dealt with and in the past. For a long time I used to think so but lately I've been hearing this slowly building cry about the issue. IMO it would be both very difficult if not impossible and possibly very dangerous to try to stifle and quiet this issue completely. I've actually seen some numbers that people have thrown as examples what could constitute as a suitable reparation figure and they are pretty big figures. But this is a bit OT so no more of that.

A whole another issue would be native American reparations, I can't even begin to fathom that issue in it's entirety.

04-26-09, 05:03 AM	#56
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Interesting thread, I read pretty much everyone's reply. Very interesting to read about German opinions about their past. As a Finn we sort of have similar problems concerning our history of WW 2. Some Finns volunteered as Waffen SS and there has been some debate about these guys and how much they should be honoured etc. It's pretty common to see usually young guys on the streets wearing hoodies etc. with the images of Iron Crosses on them, either that or some kind of 'respect the veterans' message. The way I've understood these is that they are a kind of 'response' to the Che Guevara - t-shirts etc. I would not wear either but I think that the wearing of these iron cross images is a Finnish thing, I can't imagine seeing them in Holland or even the UK. I don't think there has been a 'monster' in the history that has been buried and shamed as much as Hitler and his cronies. France had Napoleon and he has a very respectable looking monument at the Hotel des Invalides (sp?). I remember reading that when Leo Tolstoi, the great Russian novelist, visited Paris and saw Napoleon's grave monument he was astounded that the French would have such a positive monument to such a monster and enemy of Russia. I kinda sometimes wonder about some of these people who seem to have such a bottomless fervour about the WW2 German armed forces, for example net sites like Feldgrau.com etc. I know these people are not nazis but are they, perhaps unknowingly, sort of eroding the line between nazism and what they claim as genuine intrest in WW2 and the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, etc.? And slightly OT, Capt. Haplo, I'm not sure if the slave reparation issue is truly and well dealt with and in the past. For a long time I used to think so but lately I've been hearing this slowly building cry about the issue. IMO it would be both very difficult if not impossible and possibly very dangerous to try to stifle and quiet this issue completely. I've actually seen some numbers that people have thrown as examples what could constitute as a suitable reparation figure and they are pretty big figures. But this is a bit OT so no more of that. A whole another issue would be native American reparations, I can't even begin to fathom that issue in it's entirety.