[Stealhead]

Stop using the map plot updates and stop using external camera view. Using either of these will give you bad habits for evading asw!


Has anyone really tried that? Dont it wont help you at all.What I do is click on the follow nearst warship icon to have my sound man keep tabs on the closest escort that helps when you are using the gear your self. Maybe the trying to match the escorts speed setting works for you but have you ever considered that he may be using this as bait to get a fix? And dont forget they dont have to go slow to use the sonar or hydrophone going slower only allows them to get a better fix with hydrophones. If you are doing a good job and runing silent and under a thermal layer you will be making very little noise and dont forget that if there is more than one escort it is highly likely that one of them will simply sit there and listen and you may never know that he is there.That is why it is so important to get as far away as you can. The key is try to stay away from the circle of death as Armistead said in the first place and for me that means firing from 3000 plus yards and turining away and diving as soon as my last fish is away dont look at the fire works even if you are several thousand yards away.And then when escaping keeping your sub at as small of a siloute as possiable in relation to the escorts in other words keep them on your 180 as much as you can.The only toying you should do is keeping ASW on your 180 I find that to be more important than going very deep like 400+ save that for when they are still really finding you when you are in the 250-350 foot range dont forget that the older subs simply dont have the option to very deep like the newer ones do to well rounded you need to be able to evade in an S-boat as well as you can in a Balao or Tench or at times when you are in water that is 250 or less feet in deapth. Also the a huge factor is what version of the game you are playing I am basing this on the TMO mods. The AI in stock is dead weight pretty much so the tricks that work for them will cause the ASW crewman in TMO laugh thier asses of as they listen to the American Navy fools sub break apart.

To add to Rockinrobbins statment he is right it could be very hard in certain seas to maintain the proper trim if you read up in books like "Take Her Deep" The author describes very well how crazy the currents could be in areas around Japan and he does a good job of parising the men is his crew that did this job so well under such hairy condtions. Sadly none of this is simulated in SH4 nore the fact that there where many layers within a thermal and if you hit a really good one pretty much nothing could go though sound wise this is what made our bythophographs( i now that is miss speled) they gave the US subs an advatage because it was a graph that meassured the tempature changes in detail so a sub could often dive early in the day to a good deapth to meassure the thermals it found giving them a pretty good idea where the layers in that area would be in case they had to hide under one later.At least that was what Galantin did with Halibut.