[Skybird]

What you call respectability in this case will be understood as a sign of weakness and thus an invitation to push for more. do you really believe that all the muslim world outraged over the cartoons did not know it was behaving ridiculous and hysteric? Many, especially the power elites, knew that, but being noisy is their weapon of choice to make the West fall back one more step.

And then another step.

And one more step.

And one more small step.

Don't worry, it's always just one small step, so what should happen from that.

But a twothousand small steps make a mile.

Like Christians priests not understanding that if they offer their churches for muslim communities and inviting them to celebrate Muhammads birthday in there together with Christmas - Islam does not understand this as a sign of tolerance, but as a heavenly sign of the imminent readiness of the West to surrender and to submit.

For the record, there seem to be confusion about what the Turks got for real, and several news sources give contradicting information. So far I have heared and read three different versions. Nevertheless, what I said above - in principle remains to be true, no matter what.

And one thing, Bewolf: for Islam, like for any kind of totalitarian ideology that is drunken of itself, the world is not grey. It is strictly separated into black and white, and the black tries to take over what is white until nothing else than black is left anymore. Islam itself says it very clearly - if only Westerners would listen to it's words instead of telling it that they know better than Islam what Islam is - , and ironcially in much the same words like Bush did: you're either with it, or against it. There is neither muclticulturalism nor neutrality, there is only Islam pushing on, or Islam being too weak for the moment and waiting until it is strong eough again to push on. There is neither true peace, nor defeat. There is only delay of victory. that is what the Islamic concept of evolution is, and it is pretty much unavoidable, and God-wanted. Being Islamic is the fate and future and role of mankind. Compared to that the Nazi claims for rulership by an Arien Herrenrasse in were relatively moderate, and it's role in history much more earthly and man-made in nature. - Or why did you think I see red so often when it comes to Islam?