before I saw this I was almost coming to that very same conclusion looking at the partical file and the partical.dsd file, that would make my adventure much more simple

so much to learn and alot do not understand

If I can figure out how to link the partical files like you mentioned, you are correct they are the same, to the fire sound file, I think that was the only real problem I have with my setup.....I will get with vickers03 and bug him
I also found the #502 Node for sink bubbles for ships, its amazing what these generator nodes can due, will definently experiment with that one....
Thanks Alot for your help.....