[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Frame57

You are right again the bible does not teach the sun revolves around the earth. This notion and many other erroneous ones arose in the dark ages along with a myriad of other superstitions and poor theological references.

1 Chronicles 16:30: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable."
Psalm 93:1: "Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ..."
Psalm 96:10: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ..."
Psalm 104:5: "Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken."
Isaiah 45:18: "...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast..."

If your planet is immovable, then the sun must be the thing moving here, according to scripture that is.

The ironic thing is that Copernicus, who provided evidence of a geocentric system, was a devout Christian in a time when people who uttered such things were branded as blasphemers, traitors, and heretics by the Church.

Originally Posted by Frame57

In Columbus' day people of science and sea faring men stil thought the earth was flat and that you could fall off the edge of it.

Well actually, they didn't believe you would "fall off the edge". They believed that Earth had a solid skydome which protected us from the things outside of it. They did believe that there were great monsters in the oceans, though (somewhat true, if you consider all the gigantic things there are in the waters).

Here's a woodcut from the Middle Ages that basically displays what they thought perfectly:

Originally Posted by Frame57

Yet in Isaiah 40:22 and in Job 26:7 We see the earth as being a circle (Chugh) in hebrew which means "sphere".

Here's what we know about this part: the Jews adopted most of the old Babylonian theological beliefs on Earth and science. The Babylonians believed that Earth was a flat discus plane-like object that existed with a dome covering it (not referred to as a skydome, however). The Hebrew word "chugh" can mean both "circle" and "sphere", so while it could mean "sphere", they believed what the Babylonians did, which was quite the contrary (if anything, it would be a half sphere since you've got the flat ground and the solid dome). If the author wanted to say Earth is a sphere, why not use the word "dur"? It means "ball" in Hebrew, and is a hell of a lot closer (by definition) than "chugh".

Please note the "skydome" was referred to as "The Firmament" by the Babylonians and Jews, and this is where they believed that their gods dwelled.

Originally Posted by Frame57

And Job states it is suspended by nothing.

I don't know about that (do you have a specific verse?), but I do know that the Babylonians and old Jews also believed that Earth stood on a fixed set of pillars.

Originally Posted by Frame57

Pretty accurate I would say.

As far as the spherical Earth is concerned, no, it's not accurate. The Job verse I won't fully comment on since I don't know precisely what he said (but as I did point out, the old Jews adopted the Babylonian beliefs, which said that Earth was fixed on a set of pillars).

Originally Posted by Frame57

If I were to have home schooled kids I would have to make clear distinctions between what is faith based and what is not.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Frame57

Kids obviously are not going to learn Algebra from the bible.

That's for true.

Originally Posted by Frame57

But they certainly can learn about morals in society that are perfectly applicable.

I would have to dispute that. The Bible has got some moral and good teachings, but it's got a lot of immoral things, too, such as saying it's alright to own slaves (Leviticus 25:44-46; NLT), it's acceptable to stone rape victims (Deuteronomy 22:-24), and it's also acceptable to beat children who are viewed as fools (Proverbs 22:15). It's also got a lot of brutal deaths and violence in it.

Definitely a no-no for young kids, but I would say a 14 or 15-year-old home-schooled kid could handle it.