[CaptainHaplo]

Zach - I think we agree on some areas. Your welcome for trying to deal with your reasons. I think the give and take of a true discussion requires me to look at your points and you to look at mine, so I thank you for bringing up specifics as well.

I can see the problem with delaying a vote or having it scheduled 3-6 months out once the required number of sign ons happen. Sure, the company ditching people because they would vote in a union is wrong. But that could be solved by expediting the process. That is something I could support.

Why is it necessary to allow the union pushers and the company to SEE how you, me or joe the janitor voted? Shouldn't they just get the results and have to live with them? A "public" vote has way too many negatives - and I honestly don't see any positives. What I don't really understand, and perhaps you can make clear - is why a "secret" ballot - is a bad thing?

You also mentioned Wal-mart. Now I don't think you were trying to single them out, though you may have been. Doesn't really matter, the point is you talked about how when a store or locale would unionize, they would just close the store with some type of excuse. If this goes thru and thus creates more unionized workplaces, aren't more companies going to do the same thing, thus exacerbating economic hardships in the affected areas?

Now I admit I have an anti-union bias. This is because I see it as people who individually agreed to work under specific terms - wages, benefits, etc. Each person made that agreement with the company. Then a union forms, and those workers now can look at the company and basically say "screw you, we can all walk out and pretty much shut you down, so give us more." If they had not agreed to their own individual terms with the company that would be one thing, but they did. In essence, they are - each and every one - abrogating their agreement without cause just because they can, to get more out of their employer. I hate to put it so bluntly, but isn't that basically dishonest and unethical?

I look forward to your responses on these points.