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Originally Posted by Max2147
I don't agree with you on that one. The current skinheads and such are Nazis. They believe in the Nazis' racist view of the world, which was at the very core of Nazism.
I do distinguish between Nazis and Fascists. Fascism pre-dated Nazism, and when you examine both systems closely there actually isn't a whole lot in common. Before Mussolini fell under Hitler's control, the Italian Fascists saw race as a non-issue. They certainly weren't nice guys, but they weren't the pure evil of the Nazis. In a lot of ways they were simply a run of the mill dictatorship.
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The Nazis were not just about racism. A big part of their ideology was about granting power to a superior state-being, taking care of all the misery and percieved unfairness that was faced by the individuals. Much of it was giving up individualism to gain safety and rightousness through a determined state power. That is why they called themselves National SOCIALISTS. That was NOT just a trick to get the classical "workforce" on board. It was a major point of their very idea. To unite ALL Germans - the intelecutal elite, the "edcuated" and the "worforce" behind them. In fact, their success in portraying themselves as that grant "uniting force" was what made many Germans fall for them - their racism was what people tended to look over in favor of which was promised to them in exchange (the rebuilding of Germany, and putting the country back on a strong international political and economic basis). Keep in mind that Nazi-Germany was allied with e.g. a number of Arabic leaders, which were FAR away from any "Germanic" culture. Also there were a number of e.g. Slavic SS divisions Nazi-Germany had no problem with integrating them into her fighting forces. While on the other hand, they destroyed the German Jews, many of whom had fought for Germany in WWI. They were really racist indeed, but more in ways which they deemed to help them into power. They needed scapegoats who they could easily punish. But it was not what they saw as their sole reason for existance. Racism against elected "races" was part of their ideology, but their goal was building a superior German state that would rule over not only the German people, but all who they deemed to be inferior and in their way. The Nazis were megalomatics, who in believed in no higher being other than the state, which was impersonated by the "Führer". Deeming themselves as "ubber", racism was an effect of that. It was not the ultimate goal however. The ultimate goal, the very idea of the Nazis, was to subject any individual to the superior state power. The individual just being a tool of a greater power, which is the nation, which is lead to eternal greatness by percieved semi-supernatural individuals such as the Führer. Racism was the logical effect of that.
What I wanted to say is that before I worry about a bunch of racist skin headed dumbasses, I rather worry about people who put too much trust in the state, in naive believe and in matters which instead should be their own responsibility. Because trusting too much into the state power in my opinion is MUCH closer to what made the Nazis rise than a bunch of drunken moronic neanderthal skinheads shouting slogans from 60 years back. They are at worst criminals and should be put into prison on hard terms when they act in criminal ways - but they are no threat to our democracy. But when people stop believing in the rights, abilities, responsiblities and possibilities of the individual, and put more and more of their trust into the state power, THEN we should start worrying about Nazism again. About National SOCIALISM.