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What I should have said is that "good" cannot exist without that which is NOT "good". This principle of perception applies to pretty much everything.
Either way, the basis of my argument still stands.
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Replacing "evil" with "not good" doesn't fix the problem, as it still seems that "not good" still must refer to "good" for meaning. Which I guess means that this level of abstraction is fruitless. Or at least that's how it appears to me now at two in the morning.
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Until you have the answers and evidence to prove them your beliefs have no more intellectual validity than any others. So, why bother?
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They're the ones making the claim, and it's impossible to prove a negative. All that you can do is point out problems with the claim based on evidence and reason, which some of those questions did, and in a humorous manner.
Why do it? Because this a forum, and it's enjoyable. Plus, constructive criticism can only help the claimant improve the claim he's making. I've certainly changed my mind on various subjects thanks to threads on other forums, thus "improving" (from my POV) my thinking. |
I didn't realize that it was incumbent upon you (or any atheist) to challenge people's faiths in order to help them refine their belief systems.
As for them making the claims, it seems you started the thread...
I don't necessarily disagree with your viewpoint, however. What I do disagree is your presentation of it, which is clearly an attempt to poke fun at the most treasured beliefs of others. They don't HAVE to prove anything to anyone.
What I find fascinating is this complete hatred some athiests have of religion. I look at it a tad differently. I believe it is a beautiful thing when one surrenders themself to an absolute moral authority, especially when said authority represents what is best our very nature.
Sure, I may not agree with their views 100%, but ridiculing them is clearly inciteful and meaningless.
You said it: you can't prove a negative. So why bother?