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Originally Posted by Frame57
One record that you guys can have fun with are the gospel record dealing with the crucifixion itself. If memory serves me right i think three of the four gospels have it. Anyway if you read each one you will see interesting differences like when they cast the lots for the garment, when the two other were led either before or after jesus. when they placed the accusation over his head etc.. They differ quite a bit. But what casts some light on the matter is that the greek word for the two others are different greek words in each gospel. meaning that four were crucified with him and not just two. One set of two was led before him and one set of two after him. This semantically is accurate with the greek text. the four gospels must be read as a unit to get the entire picture. This is called scripture build up in theological circles.
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All gospels have them parting his garment after Yeshua was crucified and casting lots for it as prophecied 600 years prior to the event (Psalms 22).
As far as the number crucified with Yeshua there were 2
Mathew 27:38 Then were there two theeues crucified with him: one on the right hand, and another on the left.
Mark 15:27 And with him they crucifie two theeues, the one on his right hand, and the other on his left.
Luke 23:32 And there were also two other malefactors led with him, to bee put to death.
John 19:18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Iesus in the middest.
<edit> The Greek word
δύo (duo) defined as a primary numeral; "two": - both, twain, two. Is used to describe the number crucified with Yeshua in all four books. The other events are in order throughout.
Of those
δύo one joined the side of the mob in order to gain their favor but died with them the other believed the truth and lives. As it is written
And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Luke 23:39-43
AngusJS Im not quite sure what the argument is concerning the timeline of events at the tomb are but would be happy to discuss it with you.
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