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Graf Paper · 02-28-09, 09:30 PM

Privateer, the ground-breaking work you have done on self-shadowing is a fantastic revelation, to say the least.

Racerboy, your efforts to rally the community in making this idea a fully realized mod is revolutionary, in more ways than one.

Imagine how this mod idea might progress if you could work together.

This feud between the two of you is ultimately doing more harm to the SH3 modding community. How much has been lost already due to competition and clashing egos among the modders? What wonders could have been made a part of this game that we will never know?

Privateer, I know you have your reasons but can't the two of you at least respect each other as two wizards that have already given so much to this community?

This is not so much for Racerboy as it is for us, the fans of this game and those who love the work that has been done with such brilliance to make SH3 a rich and enduring experience far beyond the expectations of its creators.

The open sharing of knowledge is what made the SH3 modding community live and grow. I remember those early posts where new discoveries were shared with enthusiasm and the early mods were a collaborative effort of the members, each modder building upon the work of others.

Perhaps you all worry too much about your work being stolen. If that's the case then you all ought to go start up your own company, make a game, then hire a platoon of lawyers to enforce your copyrights with fascist zeal.

You can't create work that is intended to be free to all and then try to lock it away in a veil of secrecy and social threats in an effort to "protect" your work. When that is the accepted norm, the truly great days are gone and the community withers away to nothing.

I've seen it happen too many times and it's happening here now. We would actually be better off if all of you left us in peace rather than to destroy what is left with your battles of pride and ego.

Ubisoft gave us a gift by allowing a mod community to thrive on their copyrighted work. Freely you have been given, freely you should give. If any of you can't accept that, then go away.

02-28-09, 09:30 PM	#162
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Privateer, the ground-breaking work you have done on self-shadowing is a fantastic revelation, to say the least. Racerboy, your efforts to rally the community in making this idea a fully realized mod is revolutionary, in more ways than one. Imagine how this mod idea might progress if you could work together. This feud between the two of you is ultimately doing more harm to the SH3 modding community. How much has been lost already due to competition and clashing egos among the modders? What wonders could have been made a part of this game that we will never know? Privateer, I know you have your reasons but can't the two of you at least respect each other as two wizards that have already given so much to this community? This is not so much for Racerboy as it is for us, the fans of this game and those who love the work that has been done with such brilliance to make SH3 a rich and enduring experience far beyond the expectations of its creators. The open sharing of knowledge is what made the SH3 modding community live and grow. I remember those early posts where new discoveries were shared with enthusiasm and the early mods were a collaborative effort of the members, each modder building upon the work of others. Perhaps you all worry too much about your work being stolen. If that's the case then you all ought to go start up your own company, make a game, then hire a platoon of lawyers to enforce your copyrights with fascist zeal. You can't create work that is intended to be free to all and then try to lock it away in a veil of secrecy and social threats in an effort to "protect" your work. When that is the accepted norm, the truly great days are gone and the community withers away to nothing. I've seen it happen too many times and it's happening here now. We would actually be better off if all of you left us in peace rather than to destroy what is left with your battles of pride and ego. Ubisoft gave us a gift by allowing a mod community to thrive on their copyrighted work. Freely you have been given, freely you should give. If any of you can't accept that, then go away. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.