[August]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

...is pretty self evident. Arms in your country have not prohibited the Bush government of comitting any of it's crimes. It has not stopped rights taken away from US citizens in various situations, the patriot act and spying on it's own people.

What Bush crimes? Can you point to any specific examples of the former President being convicted of a particular crime? I think you are being effected by Democrat election year propaganda. You'll notice that nobody has repealed the Patriot act, which BTW was enacted by Congress NOT the President.

On the opposite, especially gun owners agreed to the Bush policies. In sofar I have little doubt most americans would support a dictatorship as long as this dicatorships acted as if to please domestic american interests. It's always astonishing to see that you guys still belive a dictatorship comes up over night and acts against the ppl. It does not work that way. Living in a country that had a brutal dictatorship compared to the liberal and free society nowadays is an eye opener in this regard.

All pure supposition on your part certainly not backed up by the facts.

Oh, and about jealousy for freedom and stuff, I can assure you most european countries enjoy more freedom in their daily lifes, especially when it comes to sexual, political and religious tolerance, then the US.

Actually I've lived in your country and I have German relatives. Now while your comparatively fledgling democracy is certainly sufficient, from what i have seen it is no better than ours when it comes to any of those things.

And why it is more harmful? The heck, this legal weap0ons thing created one of the largest and most lethal crime scenes found within the western world. Armed up to the teeth it is no wonder US police acts as harsh, american prisons are the most overcrowded and dangerous prisons on this planet and you guys still have to refer to the death penalty. A vicious circle indeed, a Pandoras Box opend that hardly can be closed again.

Legal weapons have not created any "scene". You're just imagining that to be the case. Our nation being made up of immigrants has a heckuva lot more to do with our crime rate than anything else.

And about the Police, what the heck, certainly they are there to defend me. That is why I and every other citizen pays their wages. And the police in Europe is actually capable of letting me walk whereever I want and still feeling safe.

oh c'mon we both know there are areas you wouldn't dare to tread in especially after dark, your own people have mentioned them here on this forum.

As for the police. I beg to differ. What exactly do the Politzei do to prevent crime in your country that our police do not do here? Do they escort you around? Do they monitor your home for you when you're away?

Example, when I was out on a field in the middle of Minnesota once, sleeping in the car I rented in my very first US trip, a sherrif came up to me, telling me that neighboutrs called him for a suspect figure out there and then told me to move to a secure area like a highway truck stop because I certainly wouldn't want to find myself knived in the morning. He was cool, even had a german last name he was proud to present to me with.
Could have been worse, in other countries I even might have gotten arrested, but the heck, there I realized what a paranoid country the US really is, at least for western standarts, calling the sheriff for me just sleeping there and the sheriff warning me of beeing murdered.

Let's dissect this story shall we? You had driven onto and were sleeping on someones private property in a rented car and:

A: The neighbors reported the presence of a stranger in a rental car in someones field.
B. A cop arrives to investigate.
C. Instead of running you in he took the time to find out your situation.
D. He gave you just a gentle warning designed to make you better consider the potential ramifications of your actions and let you go on your merry way.

That sure doesn't sound to me like an example of how dangerous it is over here.

That's not what I call a free society, when you can't feel secure even in the middle of a darn field in the middle of nowhere!

You seem like a nice guy Bewolf so let me give you a piece of advice. What you "feel" does not necessarily reflect reality. People felt secure on the Titanic,... until it sank.