[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by IanC

Umm... are you serious? How long has Obama been in office? Do you realise how long it will take to get out of the mess the US is in?
This is my first time in the General Forum room, and I've already seen a few 'hate on Obama' threads from you. Considering the time in office Obama has been in, and the fact that he has done nothing wrong, you just come off as a hate spewing republican. You can bet Obama will be in office for 8 years, will you be ranting for 8 years GoldenRivet? I almost feel sorry for you buddy.

Dude. slow down speedy.

Im not ranting by any means. if i were "ranting" my post would be at least as long as our friend the Lance Corporal's post. :rotfl:

I dont care if the man is in 4 years or 8 years. I dont hate the man... i do think he is a "fresh face" for America.

The whole point of my post was - just as the great war hero Bill Clinton said this week - Obama needs to stop lobbing out fear grenades and start up with that "Hope" stuff any minute now.

Dont feel sorry for me friend... i dont need one ounce of sympathy from you.

al i want

is for our president to get out there and give at least ONE "win one for the gipper" speach... ONE such speach is all i ask for and then i dont give a damn if he spreads fear and anxiety for the next 4 or 8 years... i will be fine... but the brother ran on HOPE and he is doing nothing but leading by FEAR.

I dont care - really - if he keeps ONE single promise.

Nor do i really care if a Dem or a Rep or a conservative or liberal is holding the reigns to America.... all i want is the leadership based on fear in this country to stop.

We listened to 8 years of Bush and his cronies go on and on about terrorists and weapons of mass destruction.

I'll be damned if im going to live through most of my 30s now listening to Obama go on and on about the Economic Crisis and how it will be the end of all of us unless we send him every dime we have.

i have had enough man.

from day one in his campaign he ran on HOPE this and HOPE that... but since the day he took office all he has done is painted a picture of darkness and dispair.

fine... big economic crisis. i understand it is bad, we all know this is a sh*t sandwich we are all going to have to take a bite of to some degree or another.

but does he not have the leadership capability to take the podium and tell his countrymen that it is going to be ok????

HELLO??? CHURCHILL???

i think any Brit will agree... 1939-1941 were some pretty damned bad times but did Churchill get up and go on and on about how "jerry is going to kill us all run for the hills"?

hell no!

he was a LEADER OF MEN

he said "we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Old."

Churchillknew his Island was up against some serious sh*t... but he wasnt taking to the lifeboats just yet. FIGHT!!! WIN!!! that was his message of HOPE.

and Obama cant even give ONE SINGLE message of hope????



EMPTY BOX

you dont know my party affiliation, and in this discussion it is irrelevant.. i am loyal to my nation and her cause - THAT is what matters IanC... not anything else.

nothing requires me as a citizen of this nation to support or back our leadership, i chose to do so because i consider it a duty of mine as an American... but i have a hard time following someone who leads by fear and intimidation.

Today is Obama's time to shine... today is Americas time to UNITE and grow from this mess.

it wont happen over night... but it damned sure wont happen if our president is moping around spreading fear.