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and there is stuff covered that doesent even exist.
The manual is ... well ... not that good it was a copy paste from SH3 with some minor editing. Makes a good coaster.
At least you found SubSim 
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Agreed, lol. Thank you all. So far my welcome here has been great (all my questions and then some have been answered quite promply and politely)
And, as for my sig I know...I really need to find a way to resize the dang thing, other than photobucket...can't seem to get it shrunk without losing the text which is from Rudyard Kipling...
May just delete it...it was a sad nooblet's attempt at a rocking signature like the rest of you have, lol.