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Kpt, Otto · 01-31-09, 12:00 PM

Hi there JcWolf,

I am afraid ive been "out of action" for some months and so have not kept up with this forum for a while and have only just read this thread.

I have a couple of websites and both use sound although only on rare occations because at times for those who visit regularluly it can get on their wick after a while!

When I was programing the pages I found it cumbersome to get it to work in Firefox and/or Opera because they tend to use plugins to produce the sound. If a user does not have the plugin then it simply will not work.

When I did use the "embed" tag, Firefox would render the page and come up with a suggested plugin to download which would in theory produce the sound. The only problem was that the plugin could not be found and so in the end I gave up trying.

After a lot of research on the web it seems many people have come to the same conclution and have found that getting Firefox to play sounds is a lottery at best. Its one thing that that paricular browser doesnt do very well.

Aparently with the proposded introduction of HTML 5 this will all be sorted out but for now were all stuck in the same boat! What I did was to concentrate on using IE instead and all my sounds work ok in that browser.

On this one I have installed a fire alarm when you click "report a bad link"
http://www.wiredplanet.org.uk/Networ...fice/index.htm

What it does is preload a small sound file and then uses javascript to trigger it. This creates no lag when the link is clicked. The sound file is only 145kb and kept in a central place on the website so that many pages can access it without uploading/downloading it several times.

I liked the fire alarm it tickles me everytime I click it!!

On my Silent Hunter website (unfortunately I havent updated it recently) I have a simple system in the contact page which simply uses the "bgsound" tag only supported in IE. This can be demonstrated here:
http://www.ubootwaffe.org.uk/BdU/B_D...Gn_Contact.htm

When it comes to Firefox, JScones's advice hits the nail right on the head but you may still have problems with users having the right plugin to make it work.

Looking at your website which might I add is really taking shape and looking as stunning as your previous one, I found that its design is inspiring and the graphics are great also it loads very quickly.

The good thing is that it has multi-res support which was one of the problems that your previous site suffered from.

Your previous site however was very unique and very differant which was a good thing especially as a lot of pages today look very similar, yours are always very differant.

(On a side note, one of the things I enjoy about Laufen zum Ziel's site is that it is clear he is an enthusiast and although a simple design it has a lot of content and has had a lot of time spent on it giving the community a valuable source of research.)

There was one thing that doesnt seem to wotk well however and this is when I enter the "Silent Hunter Main Menu" and then click on "workshop" or "U-boat mods". What happens is that a new window opens which is very narrow proberbly only 150 pixels wide which I then have to either resize or press the maximise button in the browser to display it full screen.

If a may make a suggestion perhaps have all the links open in the same window rather than open a new window. People can then always use the back button to go back to where they came from. ... just a thought!!

Otherwise the site is looking great and I wish you the best of luck in its development

Here are my sites, (both are still ongoing & I need to get round to updating them.)

http://www.ubootwaffe.org.uk
and
http://wiredplanet.org.uk

I am just an amateur and for me its just a hobby but I would appreciate any feed back given although I dont want or wish to hijack your thread so if anyone else wants to give me any feedback please could you be sure to do it here in my Thread instead.

To all... Good hunting!

01-31-09, 12:00 PM	#14
Kpt, Otto Planesman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London Posts: 195 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Feedback... Hi there JcWolf, I am afraid ive been "out of action" for some months and so have not kept up with this forum for a while and have only just read this thread. I have a couple of websites and both use sound although only on rare occations because at times for those who visit regularluly it can get on their wick after a while! When I was programing the pages I found it cumbersome to get it to work in Firefox and/or Opera because they tend to use plugins to produce the sound. If a user does not have the plugin then it simply will not work. When I did use the "embed" tag, Firefox would render the page and come up with a suggested plugin to download which would in theory produce the sound. The only problem was that the plugin could not be found and so in the end I gave up trying. After a lot of research on the web it seems many people have come to the same conclution and have found that getting Firefox to play sounds is a lottery at best. Its one thing that that paricular browser doesnt do very well. Aparently with the proposded introduction of HTML 5 this will all be sorted out but for now were all stuck in the same boat! What I did was to concentrate on using IE instead and all my sounds work ok in that browser. On this one I have installed a fire alarm when you click "report a bad link" http://www.wiredplanet.org.uk/Networ...fice/index.htm What it does is preload a small sound file and then uses javascript to trigger it. This creates no lag when the link is clicked. The sound file is only 145kb and kept in a central place on the website so that many pages can access it without uploading/downloading it several times. I liked the fire alarm it tickles me everytime I click it!! On my Silent Hunter website (unfortunately I havent updated it recently) I have a simple system in the contact page which simply uses the "bgsound" tag only supported in IE. This can be demonstrated here: http://www.ubootwaffe.org.uk/BdU/B_D...Gn_Contact.htm When it comes to Firefox, JScones's advice hits the nail right on the head but you may still have problems with users having the right plugin to make it work. Looking at your website which might I add is really taking shape and looking as stunning as your previous one, I found that its design is inspiring and the graphics are great also it loads very quickly. The good thing is that it has multi-res support which was one of the problems that your previous site suffered from. Your previous site however was very unique and very differant which was a good thing especially as a lot of pages today look very similar, yours are always very differant. (On a side note, one of the things I enjoy about Laufen zum Ziel's site is that it is clear he is an enthusiast and although a simple design it has a lot of content and has had a lot of time spent on it giving the community a valuable source of research.) There was one thing that doesnt seem to wotk well however and this is when I enter the "Silent Hunter Main Menu" and then click on "workshop" or "U-boat mods". What happens is that a new window opens which is very narrow proberbly only 150 pixels wide which I then have to either resize or press the maximise button in the browser to display it full screen. If a may make a suggestion perhaps have all the links open in the same window rather than open a new window. People can then always use the back button to go back to where they came from. ... just a thought!! Otherwise the site is looking great and I wish you the best of luck in its development Here are my sites, (both are still ongoing & I need to get round to updating them.) http://www.ubootwaffe.org.uk and http://wiredplanet.org.uk I am just an amateur and for me its just a hobby but I would appreciate any feed back given although I dont want or wish to hijack your thread so if anyone else wants to give me any feedback please could you be sure to do it here in my Thread instead. To all... Good hunting! __________________ Kpt, Otto. My War Diary and Website. . . Here. . .! Last edited by Kpt, Otto; 01-31-09 at 05:42 PM.