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Old 01-23-09, 09:43 AM   #17
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obviously you mean the term revolution metaphorically when you really think there are several ones every year.
No. I don't.
What are elections if not peaceful, well organized revolutions?

The old order is over thrown peacefully and non-violently. What do you expect a
peaceful revolution to look like? Some kind of anarchic rabble?

They are extremely effective.
They could be done violently, but they are not.
Elections are no revolutions, even if one occasionally describes them to have a revolutionary effect if resulting in unusual strong shifts in power structures, compared to "lamer" elections - but that is metaphorically meant only, not literally. Elections play by the old rules nevertheless. Revolutions kick the old rules out of the window.

If this autumn the German great coalition gets replaced with a conservative-liberal one, this is just an election - not a revolution. If the people rebel in the streets, fight down the forces of the established constitutional order and replace democracy with let's say a left or right leaning dictatorship - then that is a revolution. While the term had a wider meaning in earlier times, since the French revolution the meaning of the word includes the understanding of a forceful, violent revolt resulting in a coup during which the old order gets smashed and is attempted to be wiped out completely.

Not even Obama following Bush is a revolution. Let's simply call it a "change".

Are you trying to make one of your jokes again...? Anyhow, let's not play wordgames here, that's not my business.

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What do you expect a
peaceful revolution to look like? Some kind of anarchic rabble?
Study the events in Eastern Germany during fall 1989. That was the first truly peaceful revolution in Europe indeed. And we call it that over here indeed: a revolution, not more, not less.
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