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Skybird · 01-14-09, 06:46 AM

Not that it is not the same at the other end of the political american spectrum... Lobbyism has become integral part of politics. In a democratic system, transparency and independance of politicians is a must - there cannot be a democratic system without transparency and independance from pirvate lobbies and business. Both conditions are not only not fulfilled, but are totally messed up. That'S why the system is screwed. Andn that is why I say since years we have no democracies left in the West - only oligarchies and plutocracies. Money rules politics now. It pays agencies to tell the public it all is democratic nevertheless.

On the other hand: in a democracy the vote or opinion of a stupid bada$$ counts as much and is valued as much as that of a noble highly intelligent mind. Shall nobody say democracy would be an ideal solution. It is not.

01-14-09, 06:46 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,680 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Not that it is not the same at the other end of the political american spectrum... Lobbyism has become integral part of politics. In a democratic system, transparency and independance of politicians is a must - there cannot be a democratic system without transparency and independance from pirvate lobbies and business. Both conditions are not only not fulfilled, but are totally messed up. That'S why the system is screwed. Andn that is why I say since years we have no democracies left in the West - only oligarchies and plutocracies. Money rules politics now. It pays agencies to tell the public it all is democratic nevertheless. On the other hand: in a democracy the vote or opinion of a stupid bada$$ counts as much and is valued as much as that of a noble highly intelligent mind. Shall nobody say democracy would be an ideal solution. It is not. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.