This is my last reply on the theme.
I will try to explain, maybe I 'll miss some things, but God, I opened this thread for such a discussion!
We have international borders recognized 1991. for Slovenia and Croatia by UN(or whatever). Borders that were "assembled" by Yugoslavia after second world war.
The thing is, Slovenia is not satisfied with such borders and constantly uses men and everything at disposal to provocate. Like when their politicians crossed the border illegally to show I do not know what. They got arrested. :rotfl:
2002. or so our former idiot prime minister gave out certain parts of the shore under pressure to Slovenia, but that arrangement was not legal. In translation idiot realized, fortunately very fast, what he did. To give away parts of your own country without any knowledge of others, is ofcourse treason. Although that arrangement is not legal slovenians talk about that like hell.
Well, Slovenians need those certain parts so they can exploit sea resources(oil) in northern Jadran or mediterranean and that they can have a free access to international waters.
Actions like not wanting to make a road from Hungary to Rijeka to stop RIjeka and certain parts of Croatia from developing show the extent of such provocations.
Croatia last year declared economic sea belt(I don't know how to call it :rotfl
to stop Italian and Slovenian fishermen and others from exploiting our sea, but under great pressure that belt was cancelled. It is fof no matter most european countires have such a thing, ofcourse.
Slovenians now want to use European union as a weapon in claiming those parts of Croatia, and they state those two things I mentioned above as a proof "Croats are cattle"(this is what one of their members of governemnt spoke of Croatia, just recently).
Our governement(even as dumb as it is) wants that issue to be solved either amongst ourselves or in front of a international court in Hague.
But Slovenians don't want that and do this, and I call it fascism.
They have a fascist government and it should be said freely. It is fascism. They act and speak like fascists.
It is not I hate Slovenians, it is not nationalistic. I don't like their governement. Why do our two countries have to fight? And how can a such a little country use so many countries as a weapon?
Why is there such a thing as kozler map, eh, respenus?
It is the same with Serbia. Their government is a mix fascist disaster also.
Serbs are nice people, funny, but certain(and a good one) percentage of them and their government is "not nice".
How can't they not understand, if we fight with neighbours and we want that "cow dies to neighbour" ( a saying), how can we all prosper?
I am curious what do the people from european union that are used as a "weapon" think about that? Do they think this is good for Slovenia?
But to understand true cause in those "volatile balkan relations" you would have to be born here. You would have to know history, you would have to understand why a guy from Croatia threatens to another guy from Croatia. It is not people fight for nothing or out of nothing, but it and may appear so. It has firm historical reaons, some are way old. Some are not.
You would have to know that true slovenians are not interested in such things as their governement, many of them work in Croatia as well as Croats in Slovenia, and that a fascist movement in that country has certain roots in some other countries. Historical roots, BUT to say or speak about that would be "nationalism".
Sorry on my bad english, I tried to explain as hard as I can.
Cheers