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Old 12-12-08, 12:49 AM   #56
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Originally Posted by fireship4
For those who have said they will be sinking some Japanese subs on the 7th - Please, you are talking about human lives. I guess I may be a hypocrite for saying that when I sink them myself in-game with a small amount of satisfaction on playing the "good side" etc., maybe.

Did I read somewhere the Japanese were forced (although it really should be a last resort) to war for economic reasons? Also it's worth considering the point that allowing pearl harbour to happen would have been a useful propaganda event to sway public opinion in favour of war.

To those who advocate the bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki, I have yet to hear someone explain to me why the bombs could not be dropped off-shore or in tokyo bay or something. They were altitude triggered (one anyway i think).

And by the way weren't the Japanese sueing for peace at the time?


I have the same sentiment towards the posters above expressing hate for the japanese - afraid you "might go out and shoot a couple"? - **** me, sounds like an army candidate. I've heard "I just want to kill some pakis/muslims" or similar enough times as a reason to go and fight. Although the warrior culture was brutal in that respect, it is just that, another culture. Prisoners had given up fighting and lost all honour/respect. It was a different way of thinking and beautiful in some respects. I don't know if it was right, long discussion. Maybe not right to inflict it on others from a different culture.
Human lives are not lost in roleplaying yourself in a video game from another era.

In any case, the Japanese's economic hardships were heavily due to their imperialistic ambitions. Just because they went to war for economic reasons doesn't mean those very reasons weren't brought on via another, more sinister plot.

Also, I find nothing whatsoever beautiful about a warrior culture. Honor as a personal matter is one thing; used in the way the Japanese leaders did it is merely a form of brainwash. Getting young people to throw away their promising lives for a hit on a naval vessel in the name of honor is NOT beautiful, IMHO. I believe it weakens a culture. Especially in that the very struggle they were engaged in was brought upon by those very manipulative leaders.

In one sense, however, you are correct in drawing a parallel between the Japanese of WWII and modern extremist Muslims. Both cultures believe in the direct trade of lives for arbitrary military gain. Both cultures also lost/are losing wars due to this strategy. Throwing away your best, brightest, and most committed personnel is a tactical and strategic error, all preconcieved notions of "honor" aside.
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