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Bubblehead Nuke thanks for the input, but how can a stopped propeller make you noisier? I have been on a submarine, the propeller stops because moving though the water creates sound that can be picked up by nearby vessels. It is called moving parts, when you have things moving in the water they emit sound. And its simple physics, how can the propeller spin and the sub not go forward? Its designed to propel the sub and when the sub stops, the screw should stop as well. Thats why submarines stop their engines when somebody is coming in their wash or behind the subamarine and then perform a Crazy Ivan just to be sure. The screws have to stop. Watch any movie with subs in it and you will see the propeler stops everytime the sub stops.

A stop device for application to an outboard marine engine to retain the propeller against rotation while the prop nut is being tightened or loosened. The device is T-shaped and includes side wings and a vertical leg. The wings have slots which permit the device to be slipped onto a tail plate located above the propeller. The leg extends downwardly between the blades of the propeller and engages the blades to prevent propeller rotation.

Thurst is made by faster and faster rotations, so how can a rotating propeller stop the submarine? Its like a bycicle, can you be at one place while turning the peddals? No.

And I dont expect them to be fixed, I expect a patch that fixes them since it is the only way, unless the developers start thinking outside of the box and use different code for some of these things, for a good code writer its not exactly a head scratcher.