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Bubblehead Nuke · 12-08-08, 12:59 AM

DW is a good sensor sim. The longer I play it, the more I see why the Navy uses it. They are not concerned with shiphandling. DW is all about the sensors and the proper employment of said sensors. Granted, the sonar model is simplistic. The shiphandling model is beyond simplistic. But this is all known. We are using a cut down version of the NavSimEngine. Things like this are to be expected and honestly, we will never see improvements in this engine beyond the tweaks that we have already seen in prior patches. I would not expect major things like even the simple cosmetic fixes mentioned on this thread to be fixed.

Let me take a moment here and talk about the ComSubSim.

The Community Sub Sim should have MUCH higher standards as far as sound levels, controls, trim, and many, many, MANY other things. Things like Emergency Deep, Flooding, angles and dangles, trim control and serveral other physical aspects of ship hydrodyamnics & handling have been discussed and worked on.

If you know something about subs, Non-nuke OR nuke, then please contact Dr. Sid to have some input. I ask those who HAVE SERVED on subs to contribute some insight. Yes, you have to be cirmumspect. Yes, you have to search all over the internet to find examples and ideas to get a general point or concept across. I had to search far and wide but finally found a decent book (Concepts of Submarine Design by Cambridge Press is EXCELLENT reading BTW) to get a few points across in a way that is understandable. Yes, you have to obey the rules and not devulge classified material. But, if you can get a CONCEPT across, the rest (the data) can be created to make a balanced sim.

If you have not served, feedback is always welcome, but please understand what what you THINK you know is not always even close.

Case in point on this very thread. A stopped screw is NOT going to make you silent. In fact, it may make you more noisey in some circumstances. For the record, the shaft can sit ALL day stopped and not hurt a thing as far as the shaft seals are concerned. There are other consideration as to why we preferred to keep the shaft spinning, even if very slowly.

12-08-08, 12:59 AM	#11
Bubblehead Nuke XO Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 435 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	DW is a good sensor sim. The longer I play it, the more I see why the Navy uses it. They are not concerned with shiphandling. DW is all about the sensors and the proper employment of said sensors. Granted, the sonar model is simplistic. The shiphandling model is beyond simplistic. But this is all known. We are using a cut down version of the NavSimEngine. Things like this are to be expected and honestly, we will never see improvements in this engine beyond the tweaks that we have already seen in prior patches. I would not expect major things like even the simple cosmetic fixes mentioned on this thread to be fixed. Let me take a moment here and talk about the ComSubSim. The Community Sub Sim should have MUCH higher standards as far as sound levels, controls, trim, and many, many, MANY other things. Things like Emergency Deep, Flooding, angles and dangles, trim control and serveral other physical aspects of ship hydrodyamnics & handling have been discussed and worked on. If you know something about subs, Non-nuke OR nuke, then please contact Dr. Sid to have some input. I ask those who HAVE SERVED on subs to contribute some insight. Yes, you have to be cirmumspect. Yes, you have to search all over the internet to find examples and ideas to get a general point or concept across. I had to search far and wide but finally found a decent book (Concepts of Submarine Design by Cambridge Press is EXCELLENT reading BTW) to get a few points across in a way that is understandable. Yes, you have to obey the rules and not devulge classified material. But, if you can get a CONCEPT across, the rest (the data) can be created to make a balanced sim. If you have not served, feedback is always welcome, but please understand what what you THINK you know is not always even close. Case in point on this very thread. A stopped screw is NOT going to make you silent. In fact, it may make you more noisey in some circumstances. For the record, the shaft can sit ALL day stopped and not hurt a thing as far as the shaft seals are concerned. There are other consideration as to why we preferred to keep the shaft spinning, even if very slowly. Last edited by Bubblehead Nuke; 12-08-08 at 01:00 AM.