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EmeAzul 10-15-06 06:31 PM

Rowi58: Your New Empty Tankers
 
Rowi58, thanks for the addition of the empty T2 and T3 tankers, post 76 of http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=97328&page=4.
This is a great concept that could be applied to other returning Cargo ships in the game. You mentioned changing your Campaign_RND and Campaign_SCR to reflect 3 new convoys (ONS, ON & OB) returning to Halifax. Could you please post those files? Thx

In the process of loading the Empty Tankers in my game, I noticed in your EnglishNames file that you must have a few unique ships. You mentioned the converted NPTR into a Heavy & Medium AA Cruiser (NPTA), but there is also a KDF Ferry Ship, a NAMT Navy Tanker and a NAMS Minesweeper. Could you shed some more information on these apparently unique ships? I'm sure many of us in the SH3 community would be extremely interested in downloading all of these new ships. Thx

EmeAzul

rowi58 10-15-06 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EmeAzul
Rowi58, thanks for the addition of the empty T2 and T3 tankers, post 76 of http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=97328&page=4.
This is a great concept that could be applied to other returning Cargo ships in the game. You mentioned changing your Campaign_RND and Campaign_SCR to reflect 3 new convoys (ONS, ON & OB) returning to Halifax. Could you please post those files? Thx

In the process of loading the Empty Tankers in my game, I noticed in your EnglishNames file that you must have a few unique ships. You mentioned the converted NPTR into a Heavy & Medium AA Cruiser (NPTA), but there is also a KDF Ferry Ship, a NAMT Navy Tanker and a NAMS Minesweeper. Could you shed some more information on these apparently unique ships? I'm sure many of us in the SH3 community would be extremely interested in downloading all of these new ships. Thx

EmeAzul

Hi, EmeAzul[,

i'll give you some further information on the things you asked. But i'm in a hurry back "to office" in Berlin - so it will take some time.

Greetz
rowi58

rowi58 10-19-06 01:13 AM

Hi EmeAzul,

thanks for your reply. To the ships: the NAMT Navy Tanker is exactly the Empire Celt Tanker from AG124, the KDF Ferry Ship is exactly the Chatham Transport, from AG124 too.
I just renamed those types. The Chatham Transport remembers me to the KDF-Ships in Germany. KDF was a organisation of the 3. Reich that organised the "holidays" for their members.
The most well known KDF ship was the "Wilhelm Gustloff", which was sunk on January, 30th 1945 with some 9,300 victims (mostly refugees from East-Prussia) by a sovjet submarine
(see details: http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com...mgustloff.aspx ). See also a picture of the "Wilhelm Gustloff" (modell): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Wi...off_Modell.jpg
That's why i renamed the "Chatham Transport".

I use AG124 ECT as a navy tanker and integrated it in navy convoys. As i prefer light colors, i've made new skins for both types: navy-grey for the tanker and light-grey for the passenger ship.

The minesweeper and the AA-Cruiser are still WIP, hope they will be ready some day.

The Campaign_RND and *_SCR are customised files. Surely i can post them, but the only thing you would get out of them is a CTD. For the ONS, ON and other convoys i usedthe SH3 MissionEditor, creating those convoys running back from Liverpool - Irish Sea - Noth-Canal - Rockall Banks and the northern route back to Halifax. It is very easy, just choose the ship you want to see in theese convoys (and the date, of course).
In the same way i made the convoys running back from Liverpool to Freetown.
For other merchant ships (those with external cargo), i used the MissionEditor choosing "Empty" from the "External Cargo"-menu.

If you want, i can post some screenshots of the two AG124 ships with the new skins (i must be back at home for FTP-upload).


Greetz
rowi58

EmeAzul 10-21-06 02:18 PM

Rowi58, thanks for the detailed explanation. I'm very familiar with the tragic "Wilhelm Gustloff" episode, having read Gunter Grass' Crabwalk historical novel. So turning the AG124's CHT Transport into a KDF Ferry makes perfect sense to me. And with a new light gray skin, I guess that makes it unique. The NAMT Navy Tanker, based on AG124's ECT, also sound pretty interesting to me, especially with the new navy gray skin you have used.

Since you offered, I would love to see some screenshots of both of these. Of course if you would be willing to share these completed works, I'm sure the SH3 Community would really appreciate it. The same would apply to your WIP projects, the NPTA AA Cruiser and the NAMS Minesweeper, whenever they become available. I'm now up to 50 Merchants and Tankers, including your 2 empty tankers and the 3 wrecked ships, so I'm always on the lookout for more.

If you don't mind my asking, how do you go about changing the unit name and details of an existing ship, i.e. like changing the unit name of the CHT into the KDF? Is it as simple as coming up with a unique unit designation and then changing the appropriate .cfg, .dat, .dsd, .eqp, .sim, .sns, .val and .zon files in the Sea/Unit folder to reference this new unit? Or is it more complex than this, entailing various changes in the above mentioned files? If it involves changing the almost unreadable .dat file, then I'm afraid its beyond my capabilities. Thx

EmeAzul

rowi58 10-22-06 03:43 AM

Hi EmeAzu,

o.k. here is a screenshot of the skins for AG124's ECT and CHT:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1771/skinsshipxb8.jpg

If you want to downlod them, just klick here:

http://files.filefront.com/Skins7z/;.../fileinfo.html

With the grey skin for the tanker you can use this ship in navy conoys (looks very good with some cruiser, destroyer and so on).

It is very easy to rename a ship. You just need Pack3D - that's all Just make a complete copy of the folder where you ship is in. Open the ship_name.dat file in this folder with Pack3D, press the "Clone"-button - and exit. Then rename all the files in this folder to the new name you want to have (for example: NCHT*.* --> NKDF*.*). Don't forget the *.cfg files in the Roster folders (the nations where that ship is in use). And don't forget to edit both *cfg files - change the ClassName=+.

In this way you can easily duplicate a ship and/or give another name to that ship.


Hope it helps

rowi58

P.S. You can download Pack3D here (5 versions)
http://files.filefront.com/P3dAllVer.../fileinfo.html

EmeAzul 10-22-06 01:52 PM

Rowi58, thanks a lot for the new ECT and CHT skins and the tips on renaming ships. I'll have to try my hand at cloning one of these days. In the meantime, keep up your great work. It really is appreciated. Cheers

EmeAzul

rasmus1896 10-23-06 07:57 AM

hi ,rowi58

I read that you are biulding new covoys
are you going to make them avalbe to the other ?

BTW thanks for your emty tankers!:up:

rowi58 10-23-06 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasmus1896
hi ,rowi58

I read that you are biulding new covoys
are you going to make them avalbe to the other ?

BTW thanks for your emty tankers!:up:

Hi rasmus1896,

sure i can. But i must seperate them from my RND.mis and change the ships in this convoy back to classical stock ships - cause i don't know what kind of ships other users have. I'll think about it (and you must merge that file with your RND.mis).

Greetz
rowi58


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