You thought the baby in the tuble dryer story was bad! Dutch pedophile party launched
 

Having read Skybirds topic here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=93832 in which he expressed his rightful disbelief to a news story of an Australian man who put his girlfriends 13-month-old baby in a tumble dryer resulting in serious burns and injuries to the child, I thought that there couldn't be a story more ridiculous than that, at least not in such a short space of time. I was wrong.

I read this article in the Sydney Morning Herald this morning and just could't believe what I was reading.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/out...956392681.html

I feel absolutely sick in the guts reading about this political party if you could even call them that. This is one of the most appalling political stories that I have ever come across. Just totally sickening. :nope: :nope: :nope: :nope:

Old news, it's is an attempt being made in Germany as well. It is sick and rotten and shows what Europe has come to, even without any desintegrating influence from outside. There are even psychologists lining up with these sick-minded perverts, trying to raise a tolerant climate and that they also have a right on love. :88) The total arbitrariness of modern psychotherapy, at least in Germany, is one of the reasons why I am so happy that I quit this sh!t and until today never regretted it. If one thing matches the definition of opportunism, then it is psychology.But the faces of these politicians will become known, and they will be recognized when moving around. Hope getting recognized will have consequences for them.P.S. To be fair, there are also some good practicing psychotherapists left. But one needs to search them with quite some effort. Most are endless talkers only.

I was not aware that there was a wider movement across Europe. I thought it was simply isolated to the Netherlands.

Are you advocating some form of vigilante action against them, perhaps violence? Can you please elaborate on what you mean by "consequences"?

Throwing eggs, stones and tomatoes, that is what I would find fully acceptable under these circumstances.

I am not in any way supporting them, but i think you cant or shouldn,t forbid them to do so in a free society.

They are for free sexual contact from the age of 12 and free use of hard and softdrugs. No one with a normal mind, apart from being pedofile, should vote for them.

That, in an ideal world.

Now, look at the Europe outside your window again.

There are not enough tomatoes to go around.

Last time I checked, encouraging others to commit a felony is in and of itself a felony.

So you're saying that no law can ever be discussed? Laws are changed all the time. And seeking change in laws is not a crime.
I'm not with these dudes either, but it's a bad precident to block people from a political voice. They don't have a chance to win, so let the freaks run. At least you'll know who they are.

It is no crime to propagate sexual intercourse with children, and behavior that puts the psychological wellbeing of children at risk and cripples all their life as adults? It is not to be refused when one is propagating sexual intercourse with animals? Moral and ethics are not needed to be considered to be the basis of lawmaking? Everything is relative, context-depending, arbitrary? If there would be a llaw allowing it, having sex with dead bodies is acceptable, then, and should not be object to moral disgust?

You guys loose me here. Children of low ages are psychologically not prepared to be made sexual objects for the pleasure of adults perverts. Here, psychology, for a change, can come up with some valid information and data about the developement of juvenile personality, and the developement of babies and young children. Sex with chidlren is abuse of the meanest kind. I reject to relativize such psychopathic behavior for means of a misunderstood and also perverted political correctness. Before they become a normalized, integrated part of social life of a community (which is the case if you accept these perverts to have the same right like others to form a political party) I indeed prefer to see them dead instead. To allow them to built public representation and legal bodies is totally unacceptable. certain things cannot be discussed, they must be excluded from what can be discussed, they must be consoidered as completely undiscussible. Some thing simply must be forbidden, always, without exeptions. Cannibalism as nomal part of social life, for example. Slavery. Or abusing small children. Such things must be unavailable for any kind of tolerance.

The interests of victims of crime I rank unconditionally higher than those of the offender who attacks them.

They speak of children of the age of 12. Do not be fooled. They will also push their hidden agenda. Sex with 10 years old. ( years, 6 years, 4 years. That is what pedophilia is about. It is unlimited to the lower part of the age scale. It is limited upwards, when puberty turns children's bodies into that of young adults.

Ouh, I have been politically uncorrect again and defended the use of physical force to prevent unacceptable things. I even refuse to accept that all things must be judged on a relative scale. I disrupt the peace of the consensus-society, I disturb the tolerance-waltz of the saints. I really should be taught a lection.

I worked with traumatized people in the past, just for some months, but it was enough. Torture, desaster, rape. Before I accept traumatization being done to somebody who is weak and defenseless and easy to manipulate, I prefer the one doing that to be brought to death. Since I know from direct experience what traumatization could mean for a life.

All I can say is if you have tolerance for such a party being allowed to build up, as if it were just a normal regular party like others, subject to public votes, if you accept them to be made an object of public life and defend their right to be driven away only by normal social events (like elections), then all you have is my deepest contempt. Because such a party is no "normal" thing, but anything than "normal". Accepting them on that basis of normality, and you have no spine and no worth as a human being, then. Period. I hope the Dutch will chase these sickos through the street every day they try to constitute their damn party. There shall not be such a party.

Well, no offense, but you are ignorant, and I welcome your comtempt.

What you are for is fascism, plain and simple. It says the age there is 16. It's 16 in a lot of US states as well. I think that's too low, personally. I'm 35 and really don't think I should be allowed to legally sleep with a 16 year old. But people discussed, and then voted on these laws. And it's not up to me beyond my one vote.

Try for some perspective. When alcohol was illegal in the US, I'm sure many people ran for office on the 'undo prohabition' idea. By your logic, this was criminal of these people.

You want to be a child and not discuss the issue and act like I'm saying I'm for pedophiles, then go ahead if you need to do that. I'm just pointing out that shutting out any political voice is fascism. So, have fun with that!

If I am a fascist when defending 12, 10, 6 year old children from getting abused, raped and consumed, then I will carry that title with pride and honour. Thank you very much for this noble title, then.

But your misunderstanding of tolerance, and your willingness to relativize even the most disgusting deeds and events, makes you the poison that our culture currently is dying of. you are so unlimited in your tolernace, that you can no longer differ between right and wring, me and you, because you have completely dismantled your cultural identity. By not having an identity, you have no scale left by which to judge what a culture could and should supoort, and what not.

This will not hinder you to help evil with your tolerance for it. Of course, the guilt for the destruction being done always will be with the others.

Comparing the prohibition with pedophilia. You are sick.

Wow is that sick and twisted

Yep. Just like certain prophets. Make a funny picture of the wrong guy, off with your head! :hmm:


Oh, don't misunderstand me, I'm not in favour of these guys. But as long as there is no proof that they are committing criminal acts, putting them against the wall for thoughtcrime would set a rather dangerous precedent. Besides, do you think this is a new group? There has been a pro-pedophile lobby group and periodical in the Netherlands for some time. The only difference now is that they are also making a party. Some of their other issues seem intended for getting some extra votes. Getting the junkie vote, for example.

The only thing thise type of person have the right to discuss, is how they wanna be executed.

Bullit, Rope, Gaschamber etc etc

Markus

And you're still ignorant.


I was raised Protostant. I have to guess my mom switched from Catholic because all of her brothers were raped by the priest at their church. That's awful, I know.

But you know what? Her family was a lot more well adjusted then mine.

Why was my family so bad off? Alcohol. I'll bet my life that booze causes more damage to children everyday than sexual abuse.

To think otherwise is to be blind.