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Bort 04-22-06 03:59 PM

Embarrasing and Expensive for the USAF
 
The USAF can apparently build a gagillion $ fighter- whose canopy traps the pilot inside!
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/200..._this_man.html
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/photos/u...ed/canopy3.jpg

Kapitan 04-22-06 05:08 PM

If at first you dont sucsead use a bigger chain saw.

Sea Demon 04-22-06 06:54 PM

This type of thing does happen. When I was at SUPT down at Laughlin, one of my friends got trapped in a T-38. The drive mechanism in the back jammed and wouldn't allow the canopy to rise enough to let him slip out. The civilian maintainers had to manually unlock the mechanism, and all of us in Lizards Flight had a good laugh at his expense.

For your info, canopy actuators do fail. So do locking mechanisms. If you think this only happens in the USAF you are mistaken. But what I find most comical about that pogo site, they seem to want the whole program terminated because this F-22 apparently had a faulty actuator or a stuck canopy locking drive assembly. :doh: While I like organizations that scrutinize how taxpayer dollars are spent, I don't think they should be too concerned about the F-22. It's well worth the money. ;)

tycho102 04-22-06 11:03 PM

It happens from time to time. When it happens on a actual combat plane, the canopy cost alone is nearly $1 million.

The Avon Lady 04-23-06 02:45 AM

It may still turn out that the canopy replacement will cost the USAF less than they paid for that chainsaw. :damn:

XabbaRus 04-23-06 02:54 AM

Is it verified that this was a failure.

It could also be a mockup of the front end of the Raptor and this is an exercise to get the pilot out...

Type941 04-23-06 04:21 AM

ironic how sometimes a penny cost component disables a million dollar machine.

Godalmighty83 04-23-06 10:30 AM

if it was a mock up test i would have thought that it would have been done inside and they wouldnt have bothered locking someone inside.


anyway as it say on the side 'ejector seat' sounds like a simple way of getting out to me. ;)

TLAM Strike 04-23-06 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Godalmighty83
if it was a mock up test i would have thought that it would have been done inside...

Right because there is never an emergency outside so why bother training there… :roll:

JSLTIGER 04-23-06 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
It may still turn out that the canopy replacement will cost the USAF less than they paid for that chainsaw. :damn:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Godalmighty83 04-23-06 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
Quote:

Originally Posted by Godalmighty83
if it was a mock up test i would have thought that it would have been done inside...

Right because there is never an emergency outside so why bother training there… :roll:

so not let people think that the 100 odd million dollar fighter that have just bought is not so faulty you cant get out of it, like the OP.

TteFAboB 04-23-06 11:26 AM

You all see fault in this, but fail to realise it's a safety feature.

If the Pilot can't eject and has to crash-land on enemy territory, the enemies won't be able to take the pilot out for interrogation, unless they buy one of those expensive chainsaws, that still gives plenty of time for the pilot to destroy all the on-board computers and systems.

The fighter is so expensive and valuable you cannot allow a chicken Pilot to eject and land behind the enemy lines filled with technical and military info.

When you fly the F-22, you really do commit yourself 110% to it. You're in all the way, it's a whole new way of living, and no quitters are allowed.

TLAM Strike 04-23-06 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Godalmighty83
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
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Originally Posted by Godalmighty83
if it was a mock up test i would have thought that it would have been done inside...

Right because there is never an emergency outside so why bother training there… :roll:

so not let people think that the 100 odd million dollar fighter that have just bought is not so faulty you cant get out of it, like the OP.

If the USAF didn't want people to know about this problem (if it is such) they could have just detained whoever took the picture (assuming they were not DoD personnel, in which case they only could release the pic with authorization) because there are big signs on the fences that say "Photography of base prohibited" or some such.

scandium 04-23-06 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Godalmighty83
anyway as it say on the side 'ejector seat' sounds like a simple way of getting out to me. ;)

I vaguely recall an incident several years ago where a pilot ejected during an aborted takeoff (while the aircraft was still on the runway) and was pretty badly injured as a result of the parachute not being able to fully deploy in time. :nope:

DeepSix 04-23-06 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Godalmighty83
...
anyway as it say on the side 'ejector seat' sounds like a simple way of getting out to me. ;)

It is, assuming the canopy comes off first so you don't get shredded by going through it. ;)


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