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canimo 02-04-06 01:27 PM

Luftwaffe support !!
 
How long does it take, after you report a contact for the german air force to strike ?? How many game minutes should I wait ?

What targets do they go for ?? Destroyers ? Or only big merchants ??
Do they have to take off, or are there friendly planes flying around modelled in the game ??


I´m talking about 1941-42, in Quadrant BF13 / BF 15 (wich is around 250Km NW from Brest) !!

I reported several contacts, usually destroyers, but they just go by before any german plane arrives !! :damn:


:up:

sik1977 02-04-06 02:26 PM

Re: Luftwaffe support !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by canimo
How long does it take, after you report a contact for the german air force to strike ?? How many game minutes should I wait ?

What targets do they go for ?? Destroyers ? Or only big merchants ??
Do they have to take off, or are there friendly planes flying around modelled in the game ??


I´m talking about 1941-42, in Quadrant BF13 / BF 15 (wich is around 250Km NW from Brest) !!

I reported several contacts, usually destroyers, but they just go by before any german plane arrives !! :damn:


:up:

I have seen German planes attack lone ships without any contact report sent by me. Its been a rare occurence, but happens once in a while. However, the odd thing is, I have never witnessed an Air strike after reporting a convoy or task force. But I have not really stuck around long enough to see if that Air-strike comes through after i have reported that very convoy etc.

HanSolo78 02-05-06 07:38 AM

what about this?

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9...uad37cj.th.jpghttp://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2...uad42ru.th.jpghttp://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9...uad50qb.th.jpg

In almost every mission i played with my current version of U-Boat War Ace Campaign german squads attack norwegian ships at the capturing of norway!

tennozan 02-05-06 09:14 AM

Wasn't there some discussion recently of the need to create one or two more Luftwaffe airbases to more actively model the historical reality? Although the naval arm attachment was often (according to the books I've read) pretty small. Still there were some significant actions earlier in the war prior to the skies being controlled by the Allies.

Redbear 02-05-06 09:31 AM

Personally, I have never seen a Luftwaffe attack. I have seen in other discussions that there is a one-in-seven chance of Luftwaffe attack if a contact report is sent in and it is within range of such an attack. Can't confirm or deny that myself.

jherdt 02-05-06 10:37 AM

I'd love to know the answer to that question as well. I've never seen any German planes. It would be nice to have some aircover once in a while....lol

r/Jim

HanSolo78 02-05-06 01:23 PM

If you don´t use any mod the possibility to face german air attacks is very few.

Hartmann 02-05-06 01:47 PM

I think that stock game don´t has enough Luftwaffe planes in the game.

the atlantic war could be different if germany don´t loose the air control of the atlantic. :hmm:

canimo 02-05-06 06:23 PM

:up:

Ok i got it :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :yep:

i installed U-Boat War Ace Standalone and the fix.

At BF23 i spotted a solo C2, reported it and went to periscope depth. . .

While i was preparing a stern torpedo launch, the event camera poped up, at first i thought i was being bombed.

Then the C2 was on fire. Two huge condor planes bombed it, but left without sinking her.

Right after that 3 Stukas Dive Bombers came by, but im not sure if the Stukas bombed her.

The Healthy C2 also survived a 3meters impact torpedo, and some 20-30 105mm deck gun shells before sinking !! :o :o :o

It took 35 minutes of game time (the game clock, not here cause i use a LOT time compression) for the air support to arrive !! :up: :up: :up:

Salvadoreno 02-06-06 01:19 AM

what the f. I got Uboat War ace, Rub 1.45 and Habor ZTraffic and IVE YET to see any friendlies supporting me!!! During the invasion of Norway simulated in Uboat War ace i made it to one of the ports (past trodhiem) and was only able to catch the after effects of the battle. I saw a buncha destroyed boats idle and a couple of DDs (british) and then only like 3 m away i saw the german convoy all damaged or destroyed with only 2 DDs. They were just sitting there. I just left because i didnt feel tough sinking the rest of the damaged idle convoy.

HanSolo78 02-06-06 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvadoreno
what the f. I got Uboat War ace, Rub 1.45 and Habor ZTraffic and IVE YET to see any friendlies supporting me!!!

maybe youz mixed to much of those mods.. because u-boat war ace and harbor traffic don´t work together!
also the next version of u-bat war ace will contain more british landings in norway, 3 d modells of cities where landings are etc.
i also added some german air bases to get a better immersion feeling.

Landing at Harstad and Molde:

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/227...stad5zj.th.jpghttp://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3...olde0qq.th.jpg

Preparation for landing - Caen:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/518/caen0cl.th.jpg

bookworm_020 02-06-06 06:02 PM

Can someone make a stand alone mod to just increase the airbases? It wold mean less conflict with other mods. :) :)

Salvadoreno 02-06-06 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bookworm_020
Can someone make a stand alone mod to just increase the airbases? It wold mean less conflict with other mods. :) :)

i agree. I cant understand why modders havent modded additional luftwaffe airbases. At least model the Gruppe 40 that was under Donitz control in the late 1940s-1941. They attacked convoys and inflicted some significant damage in 1941. There was even a uboat-luftwaffe coordinated attack on convoys, i really think this needs to be modded!!! Since they dont ahve the hipper, Admiral Shceenr, Geinaisaun (sp) AND THE OTHER running around the ocean. Must be some kind of hardcoded cfg or lnd since nobody has modded it.

Razman23 02-06-06 06:20 PM

4Q 1940 - The German air force were attacking coastal shipping quit reguarly. I dont know why SH3 doesnt show this.

I believe they called it the beginning of the Battle of Britain back then. :up:

Salvadoreno 02-06-06 06:50 PM

ya but that was stopped rather quickly when the British stop sending merchants thru the channel, then the second phase of the battle of britian occured, attacking airfields and radar sites.


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