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micky1up 12-28-05 08:25 AM

THE WRONG MESSAGE?
 
just a question , do u think we send the wrong message to children when we say santa brought the presents when in fact mummy and daddy worked thier socks off to provide those presents, although its inkeeping with christmass spirts are we just plainly lying to our children?

Marhkimov 12-28-05 08:41 AM

What??!


There's no Santa??!? :o

TteFAboB 12-28-05 04:10 PM

Fantasy is part of childhood, Santa doesn't exist as a person, but as you said he's there in spirit.

If you can provide some fantasy, then great, if you are sacrificing to buy the present, then maybe it would be better to give a crappy gift on Christmass, figure out an excuse for Santa's behavior, and then give them a better gift on their birthday or another special occasion, where you can tell them about the value of it and make sure they know you gave it.

Don't worry about lying to your children though, before you know it they'll start lying to you in return. :rotfl:

Abraham 12-28-05 04:52 PM

THE WRONG MESSAGE?
 
As long as children have still unweavering faith in their parents, they should lie to them... about Sint Nicolaas.
At a later age it doesn't work anymore, so parents better tell the truth.
:D

CCIP 12-28-05 05:09 PM

I had good reasons to believe in Santa (or, rather, Ded Moroz, his Russian counterpart) - because thanks to my aunt who worked in a theater, I always had a personal home visit from a very convincing Ded Moroz/Santa arranged. How could I not believe? :rotfl:

Takeda Shingen 12-28-05 06:36 PM

There is nothing wrong with the childhood fantasy of Santa Claus.

Kapitan 12-29-05 08:17 AM

i was a deprived child my pearents told me straight

Oberon 12-29-05 08:39 AM

If there's one thing I wish could be bottled, and kept for future use...it's the naivity of youth...believing in Santa Claus, and the Tooth fairy, and all the other little creatures of make-believe.

Wim Libaers 12-29-05 02:12 PM

It is very good to make them believe he exists. Later, when they learn about the real situation, they will understand the important lesson that sometimes the whole society, including even those who care about them the most, will sometimes lie to them for reasons that are not very important.

If they fully understand the implications of this for cases where important things are at stake, and the ones they're supposed to trust are not closely related, they will get a more realistic opinion about politics. ;)

Abraham 12-29-05 03:58 PM

THE WRONG MESSAGE?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wim Libaers
... If they fully understand the implications of this for cases where important things are at stake, and the ones they're supposed to trust are not closely related, they will get a more realistic opinion about politics. ;)

That's the real lessonof Santa Claus, or Sinterklaas (to stick to the 'real' thing)
:D


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