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Redwine 12-21-05 02:02 PM

Improved Tracer Shells......................
 
With a simple file edit, you are able to see better the tracer shells.

Now you will be able to aim with your deck gun, with not info about distance, because the shells are more visible along their travells.

3 or 4 shots will give you and idea of wich elecation you need to set, you will see well when the tracer shell fly over the target or when it is too short.

MANUAL EDITING :

Thanks to TimeTraveller !! and his Mini Tweaker and Tweak files !!

Tracer Shells Manual Editing :

1]
Open TimeTraveller’s Mini Tweaker program.

2]
Browse for twek files and open the following .txt files :

3]
@Shell_trace.txt

Select subfile “unnamed effect”

Edit :
Size = 0,8
SpinAngleVariation = 0

4]
@Shell_trace_Fast.txt

Select subfile “unnamed effect”

Edit :
Size = 0,8


Any comment is welcome...... :up:

Marhkimov 12-21-05 02:03 PM

We'll probably need pictures before we go editing our files... :hmm:

Redwine 12-21-05 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marhkimov
We'll probably need pictures before we go editing our files... :hmm:

Pictures do not show all the effect, it is so long, they do not show how the size of the tracer shell is reduced along its travel, or how its flickers.

Come on Marhkimov, they are only 3 lines to edit.

I am working to add better textures.


Shell after about 2 seconds, about 1500m
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4...cer16ig.th.jpg



Shell at final 5000m
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2...cer26nd.th.jpg


Near the target.....
http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/7...cer36up.th.jpg

Marhkimov 12-21-05 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redwine
Come on Marhkimov, they are only 3 lines to edit.

LOL, ok, you convinced me... :lol:

sorry. I'll try it.

Redwine 12-21-05 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marhkimov
Quote:

Originally Posted by Redwine
Come on Marhkimov, they are only 3 lines to edit.

LOL, ok, you convinced me... :lol:

sorry. I'll try it.

:rotfl: :rotfl: Incoming from a beginer user.... i accept, from you ? scare to edit 3 lines :88)

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Marhkimov 12-21-05 03:07 PM

lol... I'm just lazy... but 3 lines? I have no excuses... :rotfl: :rotfl:

Redwine 12-21-05 03:16 PM

Good ! :up:

I am working on improved textures, as part of a Gun FX Mod.......but sadly i cant found the shell water splashes to make them a little more big.

I think so TT doesnt made a tweak file or i cant found it.

:up:

Marhkimov 12-21-05 03:17 PM

I'm sure you could ask him. He will probably do it for you.

Marhkimov 12-21-05 04:02 PM

Personally, I think the tracer shells are too big. And it looks like a square shape when I fire it from the deck cannon. This square shape is noticeable from freecam, but it is even more noticeable from the zoom view of the deckgun.

http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/6184/11gx.th.jpg http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/2183/22rp.th.jpg http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/4696/30oe.th.jpg http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/5684/51fs.th.jpg http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/9009/66ik.th.jpg

Is this how it looks in your game?

Hartmann 12-21-05 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redwine
Good ! :up:

I am working on improved textures, as part of a Gun FX Mod.......but sadly i cant found the shell water splashes to make them a little more big.

I think so TT doesnt made a tweak file or i cant found it.

:up:

water splashes ??

in the data/Library/materials.dat there are 7 tga splash files...

but i don´t know if these files are for the guns or other things. :88)

timetraveller 12-21-05 06:26 PM

@Redwine,

I'll see what I can do about the water splashes and make a tweak file for them. I might have some time tomorrow to look into it.

TT

Maverick_[GER] 12-21-05 06:39 PM

Cannon projectile with such a big light trace? Is that realistic? That is the cannon and not the flak!?! :hmm:
Sorry, for me that looks like a funny cheat. :lol: However nice find :up:, but nothing for me :down:.

Dowly 12-21-05 07:19 PM

Is it possible to edit flak/aircrafts MG tracers separatly? I´d like to see more visible tracers on them, would make a cool screenshots when aircraft is strafing my boat.

Redwine 12-21-05 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marhkimov
Personally, I think the tracer shells are too big. And it looks like a square shape when I fire it from the deck cannon. This square shape is noticeable from freecam, but it is even more noticeable from the zoom view of the deckgun.

Is this how it looks in your game?

They are not designed for that, the objective is to be able to aim with no range help.

Any way, you can reduce its size from 0,8 to 0,7 or 0,6 or 0,2...... at your pleasure.

The square effect is notvisible for me, may be because i am using new textures, it is sure due to the texture fills too much the square wich contains it.

I think so the effect need to be watched in movement to be apreciated, when the shell runs fast you cant see anything of those details.

Anyway, we must to be careful with them for the sceen shots.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartmann
water splashes ??

in the data/Library/materials.dat there are 7 tga splash files...

but i don´t know if these files are for the guns or other things. :88)

Hi Hartman, those .tga files not solve the problem, they are the textures, but you can not to control the size of the effect with them.

You need to hexedit with the TT's program. :up:


Quote:

Originally Posted by timetraveller
@Redwine,

I'll see what I can do about the water splashes and make a tweak file for them. I might have some time tomorrow to look into it.

TT

Many thanks TT, if you can do that, we will be able to increase splash size to be able to watch the splashes at longer ranges.

If you don see the splash, the shoot is long, if you see the splash the shoot is short. :up:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick_[GER
]Cannon projectile with such a big light trace? Is that realistic? That is the cannon and not the flak!?! :hmm:

Sorry, for me that looks like a funny cheat. :lol: However nice find :up:, but nothing for me :down:.

Long discused many times in the past.
In SH1 we have them, tracer shells well visible along its all travel.

I watch similar effect on tanks turret cannons at TV.

May be it needs a special ammo, not sure if deck guns has that effect, but it was modeled in the game after all.

I do nothing strange, i only increase the ball size, to make it well visible at longer ranges with lower magnifications. :up:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly
Is it possible to edit flak/aircrafts MG tracers separatly? I´d like to see more visible tracers on them, would make a cool screenshots when aircraft is strafing my boat.

Yes, it is posible ...i think so, they are "tracer bullets" instead tracer shells......

They can be edited in same way, but i dont do it yet...... it is next step together with splashes.

Plus i am making new textures for gun muzzle fireballs and flashes, i am turning them into more yellow colour instead white.

I was working on them but unsucessful ....i was not able to increase effect size of the muzzle fireball :hmm:


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