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BaronVonSchnitzel 11-27-05 07:58 PM

Why a broom on a real sub?
 
This weekend my wife and I went to San Francisco for a getaway. We toured the USS Pampanito, a WWII American Baloa class sub docked at Fisherman's wharf.

(The web page is http://www.maritime.org/pamphome.htm).

Here's my question: I noticed an inverted broom mounted high on the conning tower. What is the significance of this? :hmm:

I'll bet it's an interesting story whatever it is.

Thanks as always for your expertise, folks.


Edit: Actually...just checking out the web site...there's a lot of cool stuff there, including a WWII sub training manual!

Dowly 11-27-05 08:02 PM

http://www.maritime.org/tour/img/tpier.jpg

Edit: Ah, blind me! Taken from the site:

Quote:

Broom: When a crew returned from a successful war patrol and had "swept the seas clear of the enemy," they would attach a broom to the periscopes as they entered port.

BaronVonSchnitzel 11-27-05 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Thanks Dowly....yup, that's it!

BaronVonSchnitzel 11-27-05 08:07 PM

OK...the question everyone will want to know. Who will mod this into SHIII? :rotfl: :rotfl:

Depth Charge Dodger 11-28-05 08:22 AM

It is one of these, and I think it depends on the nationality and timeframe(WWII vs modern) as to which one is true.


If every torp fired sinks a ship, that is a 'clean sweep'.

If every target engaged is sunk(regardless of torps fired), same as above.

The Avon Lady 11-28-05 08:57 AM

Yes, I was thinking along the lines of a mine sweeper.
:help:

Ducimus 11-28-05 05:06 PM

Re: Why a broom on a real sub?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BaronVonSchnitzel
Here's my question: I noticed an inverted broom mounted high on the conning tower. What is the significance of this? :hmm:

A "clean sweep". As in you swept the sea's clean. This practice was done on US subs after a very successful patrol.

coronas 11-28-05 08:02 PM

It´s a tradition in Netherland subs in WWII. British and US submarines folow the tradition. After a sucesfull mission, the broom on top was "all clean"

JScones 11-29-05 01:42 AM

I watched the 1943 movie "Crash Dive" the other day. This tradition was featured when the US sub "USS Corsair" returned to base after one of its successful patrols (it sank a Q-boat). The question was asked in the movie what the broom signified, and "clean sweep" was the response.

Not an overly realistic film BTW (submarine crewmen doubling as Commandos???) - indeed it's up there with U-571 and Pearl Harbour for American flag waving, but considering it was released in 1943, it's totally forgiven. ;) Watch it if you get a chance! :)

Sonoboy 11-29-05 01:55 AM

I remember staying overnight on that sub. It was a boy scout thing several years ago. This other guy and I were in the engine room. He pushed forward on one of the control thingies for the engine (must have been the electric engine), found out it still works. He quickly put it back to all stop, and we looked around to make sure nobody else heard the noise, hehe.

Was fun looking through the UZO trying to spot babes in the city :)

Kalach 11-29-05 05:54 PM

Good thing I'm not a submariner, I would of used it for the same purpose one normally uses a broom for :88)

ref 12-06-05 11:50 AM

I´ve seen in a movie (I cant´t remember wich) the crew testing for
a flooding with a broom stick, the presure was so high it cut it
like a saw.

wetwarev7 12-06-05 02:59 PM

Re: Why a broom on a real sub?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BaronVonSchnitzel
(The web page is http://www.maritime.org/pamphome.htm).

Edit: Actually...just checking out the web site...there's a lot of cool stuff there, including a WWII sub training manual!

Just checked out the virtual tour, it's awesome! :up:

Driftwood 12-06-05 03:26 PM

Great Site! :up:

Trav_R 12-06-05 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ref
I´ve seen in a movie (I cant´t remember wich) the crew testing for
a flooding with a broom stick, the presure was so high it cut it
like a saw.

They still do it today, and it's to check for leaks in high pressure steam lines.


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