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Kapitan 11-08-05 02:15 PM

Korean air 007 should it have been shot down?
 
a korean air lines departing alaska i belive was shot down over the sakalin islands in eastern russia some time back in the 70's i think it was (bit sketchy on this bit)

the aircraft apparently drifted off course for no reason and the result was that KE007 was shot down 60 seconds before entering international airspace.

should KE 007 have been shot down?


my view:

obvious but;

yes she should have the pilot made no mayday calls to say he was off course nor did he attempt to correct the situation and nether did he head soviet warnings to alter course.

i belive the russians made the correct choice in shooting down KE007 as it was more than likely a spy plane working for US inteligence flying over known enforced restricted airspace.

KE007 was shot down by MIG 23 fighters two missiles were fired at the 747 and no one survived.

yet should the captain have made the mayday call he could have been escorted to near by vladivostok international airport and after an inspection could have proceaded on his was escorted of course.

he chose not to do this and there fore ignored warnings from both aircraft and ground that unless he changed course action would be taken and it was.

KE007 was shot down after violating enforced restricted and terratorial airspace which for any civil or forign jet is against international law as a country has a right to claim sovrign airspace and sea space.

KE007 was shot down less than one minuet from international airspace i agree with the shooting down of this aircraft.

lets face it america would have done the same

bradclark1 11-08-05 02:30 PM

Sounds like you are trying to stir the pot Kapitain :roll:

The Avon Lady 11-08-05 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradclark1
Sounds like you are trying to stir the pot Kapitain :roll:

More like stirring brain neurons that have been dormant for a few decades. :damn:

Subnuts 11-08-05 03:05 PM

This ain't gonna end pretty.

But I bet it'll end soon... :roll:

Kapitan 11-08-05 03:40 PM

before we go any further i want to say that i emplore that no flaming is intended in this posts just honest opinions and then a debate.


if it does get out of hand il ask a moderator to shut it down i hope it wont were all decent folk so im sure we can keep level heads

p.s wheres skybirds essays when you need them

August 11-08-05 04:03 PM

Re: Korean air 007 should it have been shot down?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain
i belive the russians made the correct choice in shooting down KE007 as it was more than likely a spy plane working for US inteligence flying over known enforced restricted airspace.

Do you have any evidence for this belief?

Kapitan 11-08-05 04:56 PM

the fact the plane dog legged rather than fly in straight line gives some indication and the fact the aircraft was notified many times by russian controlers and that they knew it was restricted and enforced air space.

where is not the proof ?

AG124 11-08-05 05:09 PM

What about the Iranian air liner that was shot down by a US cruiser in the mid 1980s? Or the French air liner shot down by Israel in 1973? Both of those had ignored warnings too; In the US case, they weren't aware that it was an air liner until it had been shot down, the the Israelite case, they were trying to fire warning shots I believe, but hit the plane by mistake.

I'm not trying to add to a flame war, just trying to get rid of my 'Sparky' avatar, which I have at this time. :(

Konovalov 11-08-05 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AG124
I'm not trying to add to a flame war, just trying to get rid of my 'Sparky' avatar, which I have at this time. :(

Come on. That Sparky avatar isn't so bad except for the fact that you look like you have been out in the sun way too long. :D

Kapitan 11-08-05 05:23 PM

well in all cases violation of restricted airspace should lead to any plane being shot down the sakahlin island were and still are a very sensative area the russians do not tollorate any violation into that airspace and its well documented throughout the world.

violation of airspace is and can be seen as an act of war

AG124 11-08-05 05:41 PM

The worst thing about the avatar is the name - sounds like the ship's mascot :rotfl:. Better than Bilge Rat or the dreaded hooded medic though. :know:

AG124 11-08-05 05:43 PM

OH DEAR GOD - It just happened! Talk about irony. :o

(I just got 'promoted' to medic, now I miss being Sparky :rotfl: ).

I will post until it is gone.

AG124 11-08-05 05:46 PM

In the three airliner situations, maybe we should consider knowledge of the planes' identities. Did the Soviets know what they were firing at? I have heard about this incident, but not the details. The Americans did not know they were shooting at a passenger plane until the wreckage was found.

Happy Times 11-08-05 06:01 PM

What if these would have been seen as acts of war? :roll: , http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/engli.../1101979762207 , http://english.people.com.cn/english...412_67519.html , http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=1195150&C=europe , http://www.baltictimes.com/art.php?art_id=13608 , nice :up:

Happy Times 11-08-05 06:19 PM

Were are these people? http://www.rescue007.org/passengers.htm Were they operating the INTEL eguipment or are they just made up? http://www.rescue007.org/grenfells.htm Wouldnt want to argue with their families about this.. :-?


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