Got Tremors-Could be Parkinson
 

Since around 1½ years back I started to shake on my right hand, this grew and then it was the entire arm. As this wasn't enough later my left hand and arm start to shake. Some days ago I made an appointment with my doctor who both gave me medicin* and a referral to a specialist in neurology. I hope it's age-related and not Parkinson or some other disease.
This shaking prevent me from modelling and play games

* Got some kind of Betta(β) blocking medicin. Have been taking it for 2½ days now and still no ease in my shaking.

Markus

Dont hit the panic button over Parkinson already now, that would be too early. Betablocker - I took them - are to reduce the pace of the heart rate, they lower the HR. And there is a growing suspicion that taking them may be associated with a raising in the risk to develope Parkinson, in a causal, triggerign meaning. Data on this link is not yet fully established, but if your doc so far has the suspicion you may develope Parkinson, he maybe would not have put you on Betablocker.

Just a thought.


You will need to wait for more diagnostics taking place. Good luck!

You're right I shouldn't paint the devil on the wall not yet-Next week I have an appointment with this specialist. Guess there has to be more than one diagnostic before they can say what it is.
This specialist work in the Brain and Nerve damage area

Markus

I was posting the above by memory, and had to check back something else on my mind before poosting it:

First, giving betablocker in case of Parkinson indeed is apparently seen as a bit unusual - but possible.

Second, and that was my thought I needed to check back on first, it could be a hint for a so-called "essential tremor": this is a common neurological disorder typically characterized by a bilateral tremor of the hands, often spreading symmetrically across both sides of the body. The tremor often occurs during movement (postural or kinetic tremor). In early stages, the tremor may start on only one side, and symptoms may spread to the other side over time. I cant tell you whether that is a better or worse scenario compared to Parkinson.

They will probably run an MRT and a so-called dopamin transportation scan to check levels and activity of your neurotransmitter. Tell them for sure that you are being given betablockers.

Such neurological "hardware" problems are topics that we heard only little about at university, in Neuropsychology and Neurophysiology, since it is not so much a psychological but a medical topic, also it does not touch my "hobby" of micro- and macro nutrients, supplementaton and diet . Sorry I cant help more.

Since it seems to be a neurological problem, you can become active in a supportive role via your diet already. Good are nutrients, which support the formation and maintenance of the myelin layer on the neurons, and which generally protect and strengthen nerve tissue.

Examples include

vitamin B3,

B12 (which is essential and in which many older people are massively deficient);

then especially coenzyme Q10 as reduced ubiquinol;

NAC (N-acetyle cysteine, a strong anti-oxidant with a known neuroprotective effect);

vitamin E in the form of a so-called DTM oil, in which almost exclusively gamma and delta tocotrienols and almost no alpha tocopherol are used, the other five vitamin E isomers are present, you want them all, but as little as possible alpha tocopherol;

then generally a sufficient supply of protein (of animal origin!) to build amino acids from;

then there is creatine (in meat);

and vitamin C;

and finally, the brain consists for the most part of only two building blocks: Cholesterol, and omega-3 fatty acids. The latter can be supplemented directly, the former can be increased and at the same time care can be taken to ensure that in addition to the increased HDL, LDL is also formed, not the dangerous small-particle LDL, but the harmless large-particle and unoxidized LDL, by eliminating vegetable oils and fats and replacing them with animal fats.

Nutritional measures of this kind can have a supportive character, but in most cases they probably cannot replace medical supervision. There is no harm in familiarizing yourself with these topics if you are nervous and want to become active. Changing your diet accordingly can't hurt. There are populations where such neurodegenerative diseases are not known at all. They all have in common that they do not eat according to Western food rules. I am convinced that these health problems are ultimately caused by modern malnutrition, and I am not the only one. We are stuffed up in full, yes, but we suffer from severe lack of nutrients.

Consider intermittend fasting, and either ketogenic or carnivore diet. Inflammations love sugar, sugar can cause inflammation all by itself: throw the carbohydrates out, therefore. Radically.

P.S., And yes, vitamin D again is on the party, too. Low levels make it easier for certain heavy metals and toxines associated with tremor to stay in the blood.

Thank you for your advice I'll try my best to follow them-I presume this specialist will demand a blood test to see if I lack some of the vitamin and/or minerals you mention in your last comment.

Markus

Eh - keep in mind that most - not all - doctors and me would bang heads over what we consider as sufficient vitamin and mineral supply. ;) Many doctors dose these at therapeutically inefficient dosages, if they even care at all. Why do you think I have fired several of my docs and my parents docs over the last year? :D



If he advises you on the ground of some diet assocation or governmental boards, i would take any advice on all this food-related things with a truckload of salt, because then Big Food and Big Pharma have most likely both feet in the door. Run.

I dont want to promise miracles and wonders. I give these video link "as is".

And also, in order to prevent you loosing courage and faith. ;)


Here are my three special "buddies": Dr. Baker, Dr Berry, and Dr. Chaffee.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF5_mMJi8bg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsuO_dOR4M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty5l5ZF10qY

My last blood test which was my annual test, showed a high dosis of long term sugar and cholesterol in my blood. My new doctor want a second test to follow up on it.

About this carnivore diet-This diet does not fit all-If you have a weak heart or some heart disease like my elder sister-She was told to stay away from KETO and Carnivore diets.

I have a strong heart, so for me such diets would be welcomed

Seen the first of your three video you posted

Markus

Cholesterol in blood tests make - imo and that of the three doctors I linked to above - litte if not even no sense if the lab measures just "cholesterol". That tells you nothing. You need to test for HDl, LDL type A, LDL type B, and OxLDL, also triglycerides. And then put these into relation to each other and to your food habits.



When you eat lot of fat or carnivore with that natural content of fat, you EXPECT your LDL goes up, because thats the job of it, LDL and HDL are not cholesterol, they are transport proteins for cholesterol, because cholesterol is an oily or fatty substance in a watery milieu that blood is, and fat in water does not go well. So the fatty cholesterol gets dressed into a raincoat, so to speak, to safely travel through the "wet" blood vessels, or HDL and LDL work like busses on one line, the one drives from liver to organ, the other drives from organ back to liver. The more fat you eat, the more high and low density lipoproteins (HDL, LDL) are needed. As long as your HDL is not so low, but your triglycerides are low, personally I do not care for high LDL. Also, the safe range here is defined on the basis of values measured in Western - means: sick and ill! - populations. You define your level of healthy or unhealthy H/LDL by saying that your values are close to that of sick people which you imply to be "healthy". Does this make sense? No, it does not, like so much in Western medicine.



You better look at the nature of the fats you eat that drive your cholesterol levels. If you eat seed oils, or olive and coconut oil or MCT oils, or fatty fish and meat and butter, and all three drive your values up, it nevertheless means that the same value describes three different health levels in these groups. That animal saturated fats are bad, is a lie: to make btter sales numbers when wantign to sell cheapm dnsiutry oil from plant seeds, or margerine. These are industrial, toxic oil, no foods, they originally were formed to serve as lamp oil,m soap, and grease for machinery!



The health thread I run has plenty of posts and links to videos on this topic.



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On your sister's finding that her doc thinks meat causes heart problems.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E9zD-DtUOA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWVLCrMfvCQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlYTnYnVN0c

Skybird wrote: "On your sister's finding that her doc thinks meat causes heart problems."

Carnivore or KETO diet is not a problem if you have a good heart, normal heart condition.

This carnivore and KETO diet isn't something new to me-My cousin have tried them both to lose weight-Without any success.

My elder sister who also is fighting some overweight asked her Heart doctor about these diets and the doctor said-She should stay away from them since diet affect the heart.

She has a special heart failure.

I made a search for this Carnivore diet and found this article

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/cr...carnivore-diet

and then I found this one

https://www.newsweek.com/heart-surge...r-meat-1973701

I also made a search for KETO diet where I found this article
https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart...harm-the-heart

Back to the discussion on my shaking.

I recall what the doctor also said around E.T Essential Tremors after I told him how it started and spreading to the entire upper body now.

Markus

Markus,

I do not want to repeat all details from the health thread, also, i do not want to press you or convert you or give the impression I am a doctor.

But I think you are too easily believing "them" and then judge things by their standards. Thus I think you really need to get a longterm overview of the history how all these political deformations about diet and medicine took place, or better: were deliberately implemented. Two basic readings that are as profound as they are accessible.

You want to neutrally compare both sides. But the rulebook - is rigged. You dont realise it.

I checked the links, the Harvard study is for the bin (no surprise if one knows how the Meidcla School Harvard has politically changed over recent years and has been more or less completely compromised by financial donation and lobbyists), so is the first text, filled with the typical premises of the mainstream establishment and thus corrupting all assessments of what is not the mainstream. The newsweek article is, well, Newsweek. So lala. - Sorry, I am not impressed.

In the videos I linked to in the health thread, the authors often give links to the studies and materials they base on. Here, I give these three book tips instead.


Most profound, a top recommendation:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Big-Fat-Sur...ps%2C78&sr=8-1


Focussing on the criminal structure of the industry. also available in German:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Deadly-Medi...ps%2C94&sr=8-1

Why we should eat meat. A very unusual, but profound book, now also in English. The original is German. The author is philosopher. But this is no philosophy book, rest assured.

https://www.amazon.de/Homo-Carnivoru...ustomerReviews


Especially the first book by Teichholz gives a good overview on how the industry corrupted food policies over the past 100 years, and how people get exploited and abused and betrayed for reasons of egoism, greed, crime, greed, and personal megalomania. The author worked for almost ten years on that book. A very good overview and introduction to the problems.

For your own topic, I have now fired all my black powder. I wish you good luck. And encoruage you again to start canrikvore and see where you end up with it. What do you have to lose with your conditions? Nothing. Either you have no change, or a change for the better. If (and I mean: IF) your issues are caused by deficitary diet habits, this is the most logical way to attack them, and then your chances are very good. No matter your decision, the consequences, good or bad, will be yours as well, like your decision made. Thus, for the time being until nothing new in info comes in, I am out. ;) :salute:

Sorry to hear this, Markus.


I saw a video a few years ago showing a guy with Parkinson's before and after using medical marijuana. The difference was incredible. His hands were very steady afterward. I don't know if it really works for most people, though, or if it would work for you. Or even if it is an option where you live.



I've had small tremors for as long as I can remember. They're usually not a problem, and no one notices them unless I have to hold my hand out for more than a couple of seconds. Sometimes they're worse than others. I don't think marijuana helps mine much, because I'm high right now and I still can't hold my left hand completely still.


Anyway, I'm sure you will overcome this with the help of your doctors.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNT8Zo_sfwo

Sorry to hear about the shaking Markus, that would drive me nuts!!
Hopefully it's not Parkinson! :oops::hmmm:

All the best mate, :salute:
Reece.

Btw, I do get twitches/muscle spasms from time to time, I take 1 tablet of Ultra Muscleze P5P, goes away fast and lasts for weeks/months.

I had to look that up, its a supplement (with prescription) containing Magnesium and Vitamin B6.
In other words: "food", or what should be ingredient of healthy food. :03: :up:

And Marijuana and its medical usage, there are so old descriptions of it being used for many different medical purposes by ancient cultures and natural tribes, its absolutely worth a try.

I just additionally throw in the focus on the relevance of healthy myelin sheaths of neurons (vitamin B3, B6, B12), the ATP cellular energy production of mitochondria (Ubiquinol), and the fact that neurons and brains mostly are made of Cholesterol and Omega 3, so these want to be in solid, good supply. Not "lowering cholesterol"! Low LDL is associated with higher mortality!

I read last year, by chance, about B2 and Ubiquinol and their - in case of B2 - unexplained but practically proven bettering effect on neurodegenerative symptoms of all sorts, but I must look forther, I did not find it again.

Its about food and diet, and nutrients. Our food is what makes most of us ill. The civilizational diseases that natural tribes and "primitive" natives eating naturally do not show, and once they get put on Western diet suddenly do develope.

The other possible explanations beside malnutrition, are intoxication, and infection, and genetics, and the effects of some sort of physical violence, injury.

Consuming MCT oils and coconut oil also comes to mind as attempts worth to be tried, though most of what I read and heared was in relation to Alzheimer.