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jscharpf 05-29-20 06:03 PM

Anyone play the vanilla game recently?
 
Maybe a strange question, but I'm wondering if anyone has (recently) loaded up the game and played a career in pure vanilla mode. I suppose this means no SHC :(...

I'm thinking about it, as I never really played the game without mods..

Jeff

John Pancoast 05-29-20 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscharpf (Post 2673840)
Maybe a strange question, but I'm wondering if anyone has (recently) loaded up the game and played a career in pure vanilla mode. I suppose this means no SHC :(...

I'm thinking about it, as I never really played the game without mods..

Jeff


Just finishd a vanilla *based* career. Based as in I used the stock sensors, weapons/equipment (depth charges, etc.) and environment.
Lot of the rest was modded.

Fifi 05-30-20 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscharpf (Post 2673840)
Maybe a strange question, but I'm wondering if anyone has (recently) loaded up the game and played a career in pure vanilla mode. I suppose this means no SHC :(...

I'm thinking about it, as I never really played the game without mods..

Jeff

No SHC? What is it?

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Originally Posted by John Pancoast (Post 2673842)
Just finishd a vanilla *based* career. Based as in I used the stock sensors, weapons/equipment (depth charges, etc.) and environment.
Lot of the rest was modded.

Thoughts?

John Pancoast 05-30-20 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2673880)
No SHC? What is it?



Thoughts?

I believe SHC refers to SH3 Commander. Re my 8k campaign, not bad, not bad at all.
The escorts still aren't strong enough (stock sensors, etc.) but it was an enjoyable campaign. One of the main reasons I set it up is because I wanted larger convoys and that's easier to do with an 8k environment pc resources-wise. Though I had no complaints of any kind with the 8k. I increased the convoy size including escorts by 50%.
Problem was for some reason the convoy column spacing reverted to the default 500m, which I don't like, even though I had it set for larger. Strange.

In the end, it was no better but certainly no worse in any way than any other campaign I've done, gameplay-wise, "realism", etc.

Fifi 05-30-20 06:26 AM

Yes, stock SH3 wasn’t bad at all of what i remember back in the years.
Win 10 does really weird things sometimes... IE i set all my torp load before patrol and i end up with other load! :o Happens at least twice to me.
Other thing lately, in my last career patrol my tonnage was 27000 and in bunker log book nothing appears...tonnage zero! No medals, no experience, nada!
Win 10 is the best crap builded over last years.

John Pancoast 05-30-20 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2673926)
Yes, stock SH3 wasn’t bad at all of what i remember back in the years.
Win 10 does really weird things sometimes... IE i set all my torp load before patrol and i end up with other load! :o Happens at least twice to me.
Other thing lately, in my last career patrol my tonnage was 27000 and in bunker log book nothing appears...tonnage zero! No medals, no experience, nada!
Win 10 is the best crap builded over last years.


Well, stock Sh3 doesn't resemble a u-boat sim by any measure.
Another one of the reasons I did this campaign was to see how valid I thought some of the complaints about the stock sensors, etc. were. I.e., escorts track you no matter what, depth charges to powerful, etc. Sometimes things are the way they are for gameplay reasons, "historical" or not, which is fine with me, and making them "realistic" via historical specs, etc. can actually cause problems.

I didn't have any of the above problems (escorts tracking, depth charge strength, etc.).

jscharpf 05-30-20 09:18 AM

Thanks for the responses!
After reading through and thinking, I decided to go with:

SH3
GWX
Magui

I really like the look of the Magui interface and GWX makes it an entirely different game, so I guess I'm calling it my GWX-Magui vanilla game ..:haha::haha:

divemonkie 05-30-20 08:55 PM

Haven't done a campaign in vanilla but anytime I've had to scrap and start over I run a couple test missions in stock game. You know, I always think to myself "this aint bad".

In fact it might be worth just setting up with H.sie patch and new U-boat comp.

:hmmm:

Texas Red 05-30-20 11:11 PM

Honestly, I cannot STAND a vanilla game career, etc. This is why like the minute I get a new game, I always look for mods for the game. I usually play the vanilla game campaign for a little while first, but not always if I know how much the campaign sucks.

John Pancoast 05-30-20 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by the beast (Post 2674117)
Honestly, I cannot STAND a vanilla game career, etc. This is why like the minute I get a new game, I always look for mods for the game. I usually play the vanilla game campaign for a little while first, but not always if I know how much the campaign sucks.

How do you know "how much it sucks" if you don't play it ? :03:

Texas Red 05-30-20 11:27 PM

Haha lol.

This is usually a game that has come out a while before and I'm reading the reviews. Reviews matter IMHO. It is the public feedback on how good a product is. If the reviews say that "Ships when torpedoed randomly fly into the sky" cough cough...Silent Hunter 5 Then chances are I will not download it unless something else convinces me otherwise.

But if the reviews say that, "The escorts feel real, and not like cheating jerks cough cough.... Silent Hunter 3 Then chances are I will buy it unless something else convinces me otherwise.

John Pancoast 05-30-20 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by the beast (Post 2674120)
Haha lol.

This is usually a game that has come out a while before and I'm reading the reviews. Reviews matter IMHO. It is the public feedback on how good a product is. If the reviews say that "Ships when torpedoed randomly fly into the sky" cough cough...Silent Hunter 5 Then chances are I will not download it unless something else convinces me otherwise.

But if the reviews say that, "The escorts feel real, and not like cheating jerks cough cough.... Silent Hunter 3 Then chances are I will buy it unless something else convinces me otherwise.


<shrug> I prefer to form my own opinions vs. having someone else do it for me. :D

Texas Red 05-30-20 11:52 PM

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I prefer to form my own opinions vs. having someone else do it for me.
Point taken. I can see why you would prefer that. If we all followed Trumps advice, the world would've ended in 2016, not now.

Anyways, this young man has gotta go to bed. I'm cranky in the mornings if I don't sleep at all.

John Pancoast 05-31-20 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by the beast (Post 2674132)
Point taken. I can see why you would prefer that. If we all followed Trumps advice, the world would've ended in 2016, not now.

Anyways, this young man has gotta go to bed. I'm cranky in the mornings if I don't sleep at all.


:salute:

Texas Red 05-31-20 09:26 AM

I played SH5s vanilla campaign for a while, making it to 1941 before I decided to mod it.

I also did play all of the SHs vanilla campaigns, not anything earlier than SH3 though. Then I got sick of the vanilla campaigns and decided to mod them.


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