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Pilot_76 05-14-19 10:50 PM

Can I? RFB+RSRDC+OM into a single giant one?
 
Hi

I've recently reinstalled SH4 1.5 (U-Missions) from Steam and after a thorough research here at subsim I've come to this conclusion:

RFB is a damage model enhancement for realistic sinking and ship behavior.

RSRDC is a realistic rewrite of the US campaign.

OM (Operation Monsun) is a SH4 converted for U-Boat/Kriegsmarine (RSRDC for the German side).

There might be a big difference between them but I have not played any as of now. I would like to know if it is possible to install them all at once. Of course using JSGME. (I mean playing without file conflicts).

tks

:hmmm::hmmm:

Slyguy3129 05-15-19 09:40 AM

I'm sure the game would run, maybe, but I don't think you would enjoy the experience. It's just not quite designed to do all that.

Niume 05-15-19 09:42 AM

These mod were never desingned to work together. So i doubt if it works well. You may experience crashes and bugs.

Pilot_76 05-15-19 11:25 AM

ok tks. I have to go through the readme file of each one to check.

Fifi 05-15-19 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot_76 (Post 2609496)
ok tks. I have to go through the readme file of each one to check.

... and probably have to merge many files to make them work together...

propbeanie 05-15-19 02:19 PM

You can however, do RSRDC and OM together, as mentioned in the OM release thread. If you can find RFB v1.52 somewhere, it is mentioned as compatible with RSRDC / OM, but I couldn't find v1.52. I thought I had it on my computer, but I apparently don't. In the OM REL thread, lurker_hlb3 specifically states that TMO v1.9 and RFB v2 are not compatible with OM, but I don't know why. :salute:

s7rikeback 06-08-19 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie (Post 2609519)
You can however, do RSRDC and OM together, as mentioned in the OM release thread. If you can find RFB v1.52 somewhere, it is mentioned as compatible with RSRDC / OM, but I couldn't find v1.52. I thought I had it on my computer, but I apparently don't. In the OM REL thread, lurker_hlb3 specifically states that TMO v1.9 and RFB v2 are not compatible with OM, but I don't know why. :salute:

Cough > here < :D

Treetop64 06-18-19 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilot_76 (Post 2609399)
Hi

I've recently reinstalled SH4 1.5 (U-Missions) from Steam and after a thorough research here at subsim I've come to this conclusion:

RFB is a damage model enhancement for realistic sinking and ship behavior.

RSRDC is a realistic rewrite of the US campaign.

OM (Operation Monsun) is a SH4 converted for U-Boat/Kriegsmarine (RSRDC for the German side).

There might be a big difference between them but I have not played any as of now. I would like to know if it is possible to install them all at once. Of course using JSGME. (I mean playing without file conflicts).

tks

:hmmm::hmmm:

Despite what some here suggest, you absolutely can run RFB and RSRD together. In fact, it is recommended that if you use RFB that you include RSRD as they compliment each other nicely. I can't speak for OM since I've never used it, though it is said that OM and RSRD can be used together. Of the two, install the one you have a preference for second, just in case there are conflicts with identical filenames and you don't wish to erase stuff from the theater you want to operate.

Make sure you download and install the correct version of RSRD that is compatible with RFB (RSRDC_RFB_V575 and RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1). Also, use RFB v2.0 with the RFB patch already installed (100 RFB_2.0_with_Patch).

I've been playing with this combination for quite some time now. Never understood why some insist it doesn't work.

Another download you might want to consider including in the package is the New Harbors and Late War Traffic mod (New_Harbours_and_Late_War_Traffic_1.23). Install it only after you've already installed RFB and RSRD, as the latter is required for it to work. One of the things I like about this mod is that Fulton-class sub tenders are present at harbors where USN subs operate from. This is a nice touch and is lacking in the default version of the game.

Moreover, only install mods before you start a campaign or, if one is already started, only when you are in port and at your office.

Good luck.

ETR3(SS) 06-19-19 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Treetop64 (Post 2614744)
Despite what some here suggest, you absolutely can run RFB and RSRD together. In fact, it is recommended that if you use RFB that you include RSRD as they compliment each other nicely. I can't speak for OM since I've never used it, though it is said that OM and RSRD can be used together. Of the two, install the one you have a preference for second, just in case there are conflicts with identical filenames and you don't wish to erase stuff from the theater you want to operate.

Make sure you download and install the correct version of RSRD that is compatible with RFB (RSRDC_RFB_V575 and RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1). Also, use RFB v2.0 with the RFB patch already installed (100 RFB_2.0_with_Patch).

I've been playing with this combination for quite some time now. Never understood why some insist it doesn't work.

Another download you might want to consider including in the package is the New Harbors and Late War Traffic mod (New_Harbours_and_Late_War_Traffic_1.23). Install it only after you've already installed RFB and RSRD, as the latter is required for it to work. One of the things I like about this mod is that Fulton-class sub tenders are present at harbors where USN subs operate from. This is a nice touch and is lacking in the default version of the game.

Moreover, only install mods before you start a campaign or, if one is already started, only when you are in port and at your office.

Good luck.

Re-read the thread. No one is saying that RFB and RSRDC can't be run together, they are saying that you shouldn't run RFB+RSRDC+OM. Run only one supermod per install of the game if you wish to save some time and trouble later on.

Fifi 06-19-19 03:29 AM

^^^^^+1!

Definitely NOT with OM anyway :03:

Treetop64 06-19-19 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS) (Post 2614791)
Re-read the thread. No one is saying that RFB and RSRDC can't be run together, they are saying that you shouldn't run RFB+RSRDC+OM. Run only one supermod per install of the game if you wish to save some time and trouble later on.

Yeah, that's what I get for skimming.

My apologies.


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