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yubba 10-01-16 04:57 PM

So Who's Really Fascist
 
I get this a lot from the left calling me and the conservative movement,, Fascist,, the best I can figure fascism has it's roots in socialism and if folks on the left fear fascism so much,, I have to ask how far left of Stalin are you,, but I think this guy got it figured out give him a listen ,,.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg0Axyvlkm0

Oberon 10-01-16 05:09 PM

https://img.ifcdn.com/images/2ac40d7...c2fb9640_1.jpg

Buddahaid 10-01-16 05:46 PM

http://www.clarencetourism.com/media...t-text1739.jpg

yubba 10-01-16 08:34 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkSISFxUoAEBvrB.jpg

AndyJWest 10-01-16 09:29 PM

http://wonkette.com/602768/there-may...omplete-idiots

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/ite...orical-analogy

em2nought 10-02-16 01:45 AM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...r-8629991.html

Dowly 10-02-16 09:32 AM

Make it stop...

Schroeder 10-02-16 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2438412)
Make it stop...

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/al...3363386637.jpg

Oberon 10-02-16 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2438412)
Make it stop...

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...24/314/f13.jpg

Eichhörnchen 10-03-16 01:33 AM

Who's up for another game of 'Whack-A-Squirrel' next week?

Betonov 10-03-16 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2438428)

Thats a Slovene railway gomulka :D

I love those buckets, comfiest seats in the fleet. When they dont catch fire :D

Oberon 10-03-16 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2438500)
Thats a Slovene railway gomulka :D

I love those buckets, comfiest seats in the fleet. When they dont catch fire :D

Yeah, what is it with modern trains and rigid seats? The old Mark One stock in the UK had some lovely springy, really comfortable seats, and yet the more recent stuff has quite rigid and firm seats, not uncomfortable but nowhere near as comfortable as the old stock.
Of course, the downside to that comfort is that the stuff folds up like wet paper in a crash:

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slides...19750_free.jpg

Skybird 10-03-16 08:00 AM

Fascism is one of the slogans that get used as a weapon of verbal combat a lot without most people knowing what it actually means. Actually, defintions and understandings of it vary widely.

To me, the quintessence of it is the combination of two ideas that could in the easiest way be labelled as "nationalism" and "authoritarianism".

Famous Austrian economist R.F. Hayek gave the famous quote of "Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion." His reference is a historic one, aiming at the Reichstag state of politics before Hitler. This quote is from his great book "The road to serfdom", a book that i recommend everybody to read. It should be mandatory reading in schools, imo. But i think before that happens, Western states' governments -and non-Wetsenr ones anyway - would prefer to ban it and burn it publicly.

Regarding "nationalism" and authoritarianism", these two things get filled with live and get enacted in reality by a whole rat tail of different cultic actions, from myths about one's own ethnic peer group's "rebirth" to bombastic mass events to collective unite the crowds and reach a state of mind described as "strength through unity".

I prefer to keep totalitarianism and fascism two different things. The latter includes the first, but not necessarily does the first include the latter. Unlickly, many people use both terms synonymously, but doing so imo is wrong and not precise.

While fascism aims at a planned eocnomy, it is not really left in itself, socialist by nature. However, these political "branches" also often get carried into it and added to it from the outside. Thus you often find the combination as if it all were just one.

Nationalsocialism and fascism also should be understood as two different things which are close to each other, but not the same. Nationalsocialism is politically left by nature and essence for sure. Fascism can be, but by original cause must not necessarily be.

Betonov 10-03-16 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2438517)
Yeah, what is it with modern trains and rigid seats? The old Mark One stock in the UK had some lovely springy, really comfortable seats, and yet the more recent stuff has quite rigid and firm seats, not uncomfortable but nowhere near as comfortable as the old stock.
Of course, the downside to that comfort is that the stuff folds up like wet paper in a crash:

Tell me about it
http://shrani.si/f/2P/Pc/2UvGJNXx/img9605800.jpg


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