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mako88sb 02-23-16 02:00 PM

Self landing F-106
 
Always been a big fan of this century series fighter and stumbled upon this today. Pretty amazing to say the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiSGeHVfGic

There's some great comments including the one from someone who helped repair it after the incident. Another one by somebody in Germany who seen something similar with a French Mirage.

Commander Wallace 02-23-16 03:22 PM

Incredible story. The pilot, Major Gary Faust said the aircraft righted itself after he ejected. If it flew on, I'm wondering why he ejected or didn't wait a little bit although he said it was in a flat spin.

The pilot said the F-106 landed itself in a frozen cornfield with 6in. of snow. The F-106 suffered no structural damage at all. It returned to service and is now in the museum. This is unbelievable.

I always liked the delta wing F-106 and the Thunder chiefs or " thuds " The F-106 looks a lot like the French Mirage fighters.

Oberon 02-23-16 04:01 PM

http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/ejecti..._a_harrier.htm :03:

mako88sb 02-23-16 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Commander Wallace (Post 2383832)
I always liked the delta wing F-106 and the Thunder chiefs or " thuds " The F-106 look a lot like the French Mirage fighters.

There is some great youtube videos of former pilots doing walkarounds and you should check out the one on the F-105 if you haven't seen it yet. They haven't done the F-106 yet. Hopefully soon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrQy5IFszzQ

Gargamel 02-23-16 09:41 PM

What the hell man.... quit stalking me! I just watched this on Youtube after a random video binge..

Eichhörnchen 02-24-16 12:48 AM

Good to see both pilot and aircraft recorded on film for posterity; so many great stories only come to us in writing, second-hand, decades after the event and with all protagonists long gone.

Commander Wallace 02-24-16 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mako88sb (Post 2383860)
There is some great youtube videos of former pilots doing walkarounds and you should check out the one on the F-105 if you haven't seen it yet. They haven't done the F-106 yet. Hopefully soon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrQy5IFszzQ

Thanks for the " Steer in " with regards to the F-105 Videos. I like these videos with first hand accounts from the pilots themselves. I saw a video of Brigadier General Charles E. "Chuck" Yeager and his account of flying the Bell X-1. As most know, General Yeager and the X-1 were the first to " sucessfully " fly faster than the speed of sound. The original X-1 is at the

National Air and Space Museum, Washington, DC

Again, thanks for posting the video.

mako88sb 02-24-16 04:13 PM

I was in my teens when I read a book about the B-17's during WW2 and there was a similar story about one landing by itself that's even more amazing. I don't remember the part about it doing the whole pattern prior to landing. Maybe a bit of embellishment with that part.:
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wor...e-onboard.html

Catfish 02-24-16 04:59 PM

Already in 1910..

"The dove flew extremely intrinsically stable by the based on the winged seeds of Zanonia Rankpflanze airfoil shape. A statement of the instructor in Wiener Neustadt to their students was that this, they should come in difficult flight conditions, the control should just let it go until the dove flew by itself is stable again. In one anecdote is reported that a mechanic at launch preparations the throttle a pigeon accidentally pushed on full throttle and fell off the plane. The aircraft lifted without pilot itself off and landed after the fuel was exhausted after 200 km on a smooth lawn."

In reality it was the pilot, Mr. Hirth, who had climbed out to start the engine but had left the throttle at the "full" position. When the engine sputtered to life, he did not manage to get into the seat in time, and saw his bird fly away.
Famous story here..

Onkel Neal 02-24-16 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2384145)
Already in 1910..

"The dove flew extremely intrinsically stable by the based on the winged seeds of Zanonia Rankpflanze airfoil shape. A statement of the instructor in Wiener Neustadt to their students was that this, they should come in difficult flight conditions, the control should just let it go until the dove flew by itself is stable again. In one anecdote is reported that a mechanic at launch preparations the throttle a pigeon accidentally pushed on full throttle and fell off the plane. The aircraft lifted without pilot itself off and landed after the fuel was exhausted after 200 km on a smooth lawn."

In reality it was the pilot, Mr. Hirth, who had climbed out to start the engine but had left the throttle at the "full" position. When the engine sputtered to life, he did not manage to get into the seat in time, and saw his bird fly away.
Famous story here..


Man, can you imagine having to live that down? :88)

Commander Wallace 02-25-16 06:44 PM

I thought I would add this : This is an Israeli F-15 Eagle that suffered extensive wing damage in a " in flight collision ". The F-15 lost an entire wing. It not only managed to fly on but also land safely. The pilot was quoted as saying had he known the starboard wing was missing, he would have ejected.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M359poNjvVA

mako88sb 02-26-16 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace (Post 2384497)
I thought I would add this : This is an Israeli F-15 Eagle that suffered extensive wing damage in a " in flight collision ". The F-15 lost an entire wing. It not only managed to fly on but also land safely. The pilot was quoted as saying had he known the starboard wing was missing, he would have ejected.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M359poNjvVA

I remember watching that awhile back. Quite the testament to how well it was designed along with it's 104:0 kill loss ratio. Looking through the accident reports there was a 1990 incident in Alaska were a F-15 accidentally launched a sidewinder at another F-15. It was damaged but made it back for a safe landing. In 1995 a Japanese Air Force F-15 was accidentally shot down by his wingman with a sidewinder. Wonder if the wingman did the hari-kari afterwards.

Commander Wallace 02-26-16 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mako88sb (Post 2384680)
I remember watching that awhile back. Quite the testament to how well it was designed along with it's 104:0 kill loss ratio. Looking through the accident reports there was a 1990 incident in Alaska were a F-15 accidentally launched a sidewinder at another F-15. It was damaged but made it back for a safe landing. In 1995 a Japanese Air Force F-15 was accidentally shot down by his wingman with a sidewinder. Wonder if the wingman did the hari-kari afterwards.

You have that right. The F-15 Eagle is ahead of it's time and the engineers who designed it are beyond exceptional. The firing of the missiles may not have been the pilots fault. There were cases where static electric buildup overcame the resistance in the firing circuit and the missiles fired by themselves.

mako88sb 03-05-16 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace (Post 2384690)
You have that right. The F-15 Eagle is ahead of it's time and the engineers who designed it are beyond exceptional. The firing of the missiles may not have been the pilots fault. There were cases where static electric buildup overcame the resistance in the firing circuit and the missiles fired by themselves.

Good point about the side-winder problem. I did a bit of searching to see if this was the cause of the 2 incidents in my post. I'm not having much luck though. Seems any search involving an accidental shoot-down with F-15 in it brings up the Blackhawks incident. Do you know of a site that goes into more detail about the sidewinder problem.

I was also curious if you have ever read "Yeager". I stumbled on it when it first came out and bought the hardcover which I usually avoided back then when I was in school. Great book and it really heightened my appreciation for him. Especially when he went to all the effort to get back in the fight during WW2 after being shot-down over France. However, I found some parts of it to be a bit hard to believe. For instance when he described the time Neil Armstrong and him got bogged down in a salt-flat while doing a touch and go that according to Yeager, he strongly advised Neil from doing. From all I had read about Armstrong up to that point, it sounded pretty out of character for him to do something like that. Just a few years ago, I read "First Man" and Neil mentions that it was more the other way around with the salt-flat incident. Seems old Yeager wasn't above tall tales when it came to embellishing his book.

XabbaRus 03-06-16 05:08 PM

I read Yeager when I was 15 and thought it was really good. I then reread it about 10 years later when I was a bit more worldly wise and I'm afraid my opinion of him changed. His book seemed very much a "am I not greatest" and "I was the best pilot in the world bar none" and it got quite irritating.

Sure he broke the sound barrier with a broken rib, but I found he came across as very dismissive of others around him. He also neglected to mention that the Bell X-1 research derived a lot from the Miles M.52.

I thought a better book that I read is The Right Stuff by Thomas Wolfe.


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