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Sonarman not automatically detecting sounds

At the moment my sonarman just became useless, it simply does not detect any sound unless i detect it manually first and still it need to be very close. It is kind boring having to operate the sonar manually just to know if there is any enemy around me.

[MODS]
TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5=1
RSRDC_TMO_V502=2
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1=3
1.5_Optical Targeting Correction 031312 for RSRDCv502=4
Traveller Mod v2.6 TMO=5
Traveller Mod 2.6 OTC 1.5 Patch=6
Traveller Mod 2.6 OTC 1.5 Automatic Ship ID=7
1.5_OTC for 16 to 9 Aspect Ratio RSRDCv502=8
Improved Stock Environment_v2=9
#2 ISE Realistic Colors=10
Bigger Better Protractors=11
410 Rockin Robbins EZ Plot V2.0=12

What you have to do is remove all mods and run SH4. Sonarman not deaf? Good. Install Mod #1. Try again. Not deaf? Continue with Mod #2. Test. Install next mod. Test......you get the idea. That is the only way you can tell if your game is working right and which mod does the dirty deed.

Let us know what you find.

I was trying to avoid that but i guess that i even know which one created this problem......traveller's mod....

You'll find that RSRDC is also a problematic mod as well.

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Originally Posted by Moonlight (Post 2359841)

You'll find that RSRDC is also a problematic mod as well.

Thanks, i didn't know about this.

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins (Post 2359600)

I'd do this. It's the most time-consuming, but it's definite that you'll find what mod is causing what problem.

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Originally Posted by CaptainRamius (Post 2360849)

I'd do this. It's the most time-consuming, but it's definite that you'll find what mod is causing what problem.

Thanks, however after researches, using the keyword deaf, i found out that this is a common issue with rfb 2.0 (might no apply to everyone). At least in my case i have confirmed that this issue has shown even using only rfb 2.0 mod + patch.
Unfortunately this mod doesn't work properly for me, so i'll stick to TMO only without travelly (which introduced the deaf issue with TMO).

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Originally Posted by xXNightEagleXx (Post 2359280)

Do you mean he really can't hear anything, or that he doesn't hear well?

Many complain that their soundman is 'deaf', but it turns out he hears as well as he should (not too well).

The US sound gear, in the early part of the war could not reliably detect ships beyond maybe 7,000 yds. Since you can normally see much farther than this, you might think something's wrong. People who are used to SH3, where their German gear can pick up Allied convoys from over the horizon, think this is a bug, but it is not.

Also, you should note, the game only uses one sensor at a time. If you are looking at a ship through the scope, your sound man will not report it. AFAIK, mods can't fix this.

These sound issues are old, and well known. They really have nothing to do with anyone's mods. They are a consequence of the games simplistic sound/sensor mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Moonlight (Post 2359841)

You'll find that RSRDC is also a problematic mod as well.

I really wish people wouldn't say this sort of thing. If you have experienced a particular problem, or think you have, you should state what it is. It is really unfair to say something very vague, and not verifiable, like this. Often, people have said "XYZ mod caused this problem.", and later it becomes evident that said problem has other causes.

I really don't know why it has become fashionable to criticize RSRDC all of a sudden. It has been a very widely used, and popular mod. I will point out, no one has released a later historical campaign mod.

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Originally Posted by TorpX (Post 2361023)

Do you mean he really can't hear anything, or that he doesn't hear well?

Many complain that their soundman is 'deaf', but it turns out he hears as well as he should (not too well).

The US sound gear, in the early part of the war could not reliably detect ships beyond maybe 7,000 yds. Since you can normally see much farther than this, you might think something's wrong. People who are used to SH3, where their German gear can pick up Allied convoys from over the horizon, think this is a bug, but it is not.

Also, you should note, the game only uses one sensor at a time. If you are looking at a ship through the scope, your sound man will not report it. AFAIK, mods can't fix this.

These sound issues are old, and well known. They really have nothing to do with anyone's mods. They are a consequence of the games simplistic sound/sensor mechanics.

I really wish people wouldn't say this sort of thing. If you have experienced a particular problem, or think you have, you should state what it is. It is really unfair to say something very vague, and not verifiable, like this. Often, people have said "XYZ mod caused this problem.", and later it becomes evident that said problem has other causes.

I really don't know why it has become fashionable to criticize RSRDC all of a sudden. It has been a very widely used, and popular mod. I will point out, no one has released a later historical campaign mod.

I think he knows what "deaf" means.
He means to say that the sonarman on his sub will not detect sounds (not even mentioning a bearing to the target) unless he manually goes to the sonar station.

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Originally Posted by CaptainRamius (Post 2361024)

I think he knows what "deaf" means.
He means to say that the sonarman on his sub will not detect sounds (not even mentioning a bearing to the target) unless he manually goes to the sonar station.

Then how do you explain all the people who use the same mods, who have a soundman that can hear sounds?

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Originally Posted by TorpX (Post 2361307)

Then how do you explain all the people who use the same mods, who have a soundman that can hear sounds?

I don't know :D

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Originally Posted by CaptainRamius (Post 2361024)

I think he knows what "deaf" means.
He means to say that the sonarman on his sub will not detect sounds (not even mentioning a bearing to the target) unless he manually goes to the sonar station.

TorpX's question was valid. In order to diagnose the problem you need to know under what circumstances the sonarman can't hear. It could be that the mods are working as they are supposed to.

The range to the unheard target is critical information. So is the target speed and relative bearing for that matter.

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Originally Posted by Barkerov (Post 2361317)

Yeah, that's right. TorpX, truce? :D

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Originally Posted by CaptainRamius (Post 2361318)

Yeah, that's right. TorpX, truce? :D

I forgive you. :)

It has been a very common problem/situation. I've wondered about my soundman often. After hardly ever getting any sound reports, there was some haze(fog in game files) on my last patrol. My soundman actually reported some contacts. I was amazed!

Don't blame modders for this; it's really Ubisoft's fault. They left us with a game where our crews cannot see and hear at the same time.