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Cybermat47 07-01-15 06:34 AM

The Confederate Flag Controversy
 
Not sure where I stand on this one, though I can certainly understand why the flag would upset some people... especially when it's designer explicitly stated that it was a white supremacy flag :doh:

Though of course, it's not like the Hakenkreuz - the flag could be seen as representing an independent South, and the idea of the South being independent isn't inherently racist, unlike Nazism.

Onkel Neal 07-01-15 09:18 AM

To qualify, I support removing it from any govt office or facility.

Sailor Steve 07-01-15 09:21 AM

That's why I didn't respond sooner. I wasn't sure if this meant removal from government buildings, which I support, or banning it altogether, which is definitely wrong.

Betonov 07-01-15 09:48 AM

I said no, because I already made my stance on another thread and it's the same as Steve's.
Government no, private property yes. But private property outnumbers public so in average, I do not support the rmeoval of the Confederate flag*


*This an opinion of a non-american and reflects his attitude if the same issue arose in his home country

Dowly 07-01-15 10:19 AM

Remove from government buildings.

Armistead 07-01-15 10:33 AM

Being a former active CS reenactor and now more part time, I hear the numerous arguments. Even the majority of historic reenactors grasp the flag has racist intent and doesn't belong on top of a govt. building that represents the people. I think with it's history, only ignorant people would agree with that and yes we have a lot of them in the South.

However, I am concerned with history and heritage itself. They're numerous movements now to disconnect the flag historically. It's being removed from numerous historic CS landmarks. They're numerous movements to remove not only the flag, but monuments, etc., to the point it can't be flown in museums of CS history.

What's next, to remove great literature from govt libraries such as Tom Sawyer? Yes, many want that too.

I think we're at a fine line and common sense needs to prevail.

mapuc 07-01-15 11:36 AM

I'm an outsider- My vote doesn't count and isn't it a domestic problem ?

Markus

Oberon 07-01-15 11:46 AM

I'm with the rest of the folks in this thread. It makes no sense to fly it from government buildings, especially since 9/10 it's the battle flag rather than the dipped in blood/stainless/stars&bars version, but removing it entirely is ridiculous and censorship.

yubba 07-01-15 12:24 PM

Now that they got their foot in the door,, where will it stop,, I for can tell you it won't,, no where in the constitution does it say you have the right, too, not to be offended,, oohh that's right we are in a post constitutional state of affairs in this country right from the president down to your local dog catcher,, they have forgotten their oath.

nikimcbee 07-01-15 12:58 PM

I can see not putting it on Federal buildings in the South, but on a state building should be a state's right issue:D.
I'm curious how this will impact Civil War re-enacting since groups/states are banning the sale/display of the battle flag.

See Apple, Gettysburg National Park, Kali-fornia:har:.

Armistead 07-01-15 01:20 PM

'Dukes of Hazzard' episodes pulled from TV Land due to Confederate flag making appearances in the show.

August 07-01-15 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2325533)
'Dukes of Hazzard' episodes pulled from TV Land due to Confederate flag making appearances in the show.

Yet Hogans Heroes with it's liberal displays of swastikas and nazi regalia continues to be aired. Go figure.

nikimcbee 07-01-15 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2325536)
Yet Hogans Heroes with it's liberal displays of swastikas and nazi regalia continues to be aired. Go figure.


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/c4r5Mnbujpc/hqdefault.jpg
Auguuuuuust!

Schroeder 07-01-15 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2325536)
Yet Hogans Heroes with it's liberal displays of swastikas and nazi regalia continues to be aired. Go figure.

The difference is that the Swastikas were not displayed in a glorifying way and were the symbols of the bad guys who would lose in every episode. By that the swastika became laughing stock. The flag in Dukes of Hazard on the General Lee is quiet different from that and I can understand that some people find it inappropriate that way given the current situation (which doesn't mean I think it's the right thing to do, I don't remember enough about the show to make any informed judgment).

u crank 07-01-15 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2325544)
By that the swastika became laughing stock. The flag in Dukes of Hazard on the General Lee is quiet different from that and I can understand that some people find it inappropriate that way given the current situation (which doesn't mean I think it's the right thing to do, I don't remember enough about the show to make any informed judgment).

It was a comedy. Least I thought it was. :O:


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