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Scarredclown

04-12-15 08:09 PM

Attack periscope.

I'm using RFB, i go to periscope depth and make my way almost in the middle of an ennemy convoy. Now, using RFB, how do i attack ???? In my attack periscope, and the left screen module, (forgot its name) the range, bearing, angle, nothing appear ? Must i go manual all the way ? if so i need to learn fast... DDs are approaching !

TorpX

04-13-15 01:30 AM

I'm not sure if you are saying that your game is bugged, or if you just have no idea about manual targeting.

For the moment, I'll assume the later. Manual targeting in RFB is really no different than with any other mods, with the exception of not having map contacts when zoomed in, or the torpedo path on the 'attack map'. Manual targeting is generally taken to mean that you must enter in the required inputs to the TDC, rather than having the 'crew' do it. You don't have to calculate complicated trig problems; the TDC will do that for you.

Before I can really answer your questions, I need to know whether you are:

a) willing to put in some effort to really learning how it was done....

or

b) you just want some simple/easy/fast way to blow up targeted ships....

Crannogman

04-13-15 02:38 AM

When you point at a ship and press the L key, does the ship data show up in the TDC on the left?

Scarredclown

04-13-15 06:46 AM

Ok first i dont think my game is bugged, second i want to learn manual targetting. I know some part of it, even tried it once or twice on single ship. But i like also a fast was to shoot when i am in a convoy attack and time is precious.

Its my TDC that shows no data, i'll try the press L key.

It was easy in stock game to point and click. Now that option seems to be gone in RFB, must i go all the way manual in RFB ?

CapnScurvy

04-13-15 07:31 AM

You've got to go "all the way" no matter which (if any) mods you use when playing manual targeting. Speed, Aob, Range, Relative Bearing all need to be estimated by you.

adrians69

04-13-15 11:43 AM

You have to take range/bearing observations over time and plot them on the map. Draw a line straight out from your position in the direction you are facing then take the first range/bearing from the scope and mark that position, wait 3 minutes and take another reading and plot that. When you have got 2 marks, draw a line with the ruler between both points and you have the target course. Measure the distance between both points and you have target speed. For example if the target has travelled 1000 yds in 3 minutes, the speed is 10kts and so on. Now to get AOB, measure the angle between your course line and the target's and you have AOB for the shot. Using this method, do not turn on the PK as it will continue to update the TDC and ruin your solution. Lead the target by 10-15 degrees and wait for it to pass your scope centre line, then fire the torps.

This seems like a lot to do with little time to do it but you will get faster with practice.

Scarredclown

04-13-15 04:58 PM

Well right now, i've decided to uncheck the manual targetting, dropping to about 76% realism. I've too much on my hand with the change in the mods and just getting accustomed to SH4 over SH3 to learn the manual targetting and be efficient at it. I'll get back to it later. Thx guys for all your help.

Now back to that convoy...:arrgh!:

Scarredclown

04-13-15 07:18 PM

I uncheck the manual targetting, but returning to my saved games, its still manual. Do i have to start a new career for the change to get effect ? Or just return to base ?

Longknife

04-13-15 08:10 PM

You will have to start a new career. All those setting are permanent once a new career is started.

I would encourage you to strive to conquer manual targeting. For me it's 60% of my enjoyment... Setting up the perfect attack & watching it unfold & your torps run as intended is shear joy to behold.

Scarredclown

04-14-15 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longknife (Post 2306519)

I would encourage you to strive to conquer manual targeting. For me it's 60% of my enjoyment... Setting up the perfect attack & watching it unfold & your torps run as intended is shear joy to behold.

I'll come to that eventually. But first i want to be more efficient at detecting, intercepting and evading before starting to complicate thing a bit with targetting .

captcrane

04-14-15 07:01 AM

I play the stock game but if I make a change in the realism settings I have to completely exit the game then restart it for changes to take effect.

TorpX

04-14-15 08:27 PM

The game has separate settings for careers and normal play. The settings used for your career must be accessed through the office bookshelf to the left. You might have to start a new career to change those.

Crannogman

04-14-15 09:10 PM

You should probably chnage realismsettings in your office, between patrols. Then save and exit, then reload. Then you should be fine.

I agree with your plan - get used to the game, then learn the trig game. Although, when the storms rage, you will miss the ability to input target data when visibility is naught but your radar is giving you everything you need for a killer solution

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