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Pawian 03-15-15 06:44 AM

speed of torpedo?
 
Hi

I play silent hunter 3, patch 1.4.

I elaborated complicated system of torpedoing. Distance from u-boot to enemy ship, and angle between him and our uboot.

Then I use trigonometry to count distance, where enemy ship will be when our perisopce is 0.

Now i need tip how i can choose torpedo speed, so i can fire it at the appropriate time.

I dont ask about TDC and - slow medium or fast, but mannualy choosing torpedo speed for example 20 kilometers per hour or 30.

Help pls.

Mittelwaechter 03-15-15 07:19 AM

Welcome aboard, Kaleun Pawian.

The torpedo speed settings are fixed.
The electric eels are limited to 30 Kts (or better 28Kts unmodded - its a bug)
The steamers are fixed to 30/40/44 Kts iirc. There were no other speed variations available with the German U-Boote until later in war. Homing torpedos had different (fixed) speeds and some rare long range versions (Dackel) were going realy slow (not simulated in SH3).

You can change the settings to other fixed speeds via modding - but then again you should have only this given sheme of one speed setting for electric and three speedsettings for steamers.

There is no ingame choice other than given/modded set.

Pawian 03-15-15 07:32 AM

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hmmm, so whichc mod i need to choose torpedo speed??

I want speed value that I want, no only 3 of them...

Mittelwaechter 03-15-15 08:00 AM

There is no way to have more than the given speed settings. You can only change the fixed speed settings to some other fixed speed setting.

You won't have any ingame flexibility to set any speed variation but the given ones.

skwas Silent 3ditor is the modding tool - you'll find it here aboard.
A forum search for 'torpedo speed modding' or similar will show the files to be altered.

As far as I know there is no existing mod available with altered speed settings. You will have to mod them by yourself.

Edit: Your complicated trigonometric approach would be fine, if there were more variable speed settings for the torpeodes. But there aren't.
Do your math with fixed torpedo speed and variable angle of attack. ;) That's what they did (or the TDC).

Pawian 03-15-15 08:38 AM

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if there is no possibility to change torpedo speed, whole method is useless....

Mittelwaechter 03-15-15 08:50 AM

Let's see...

There are three G7a torpedos available - the original one, the FAT and the LUT.
This may enable nine speed settings (3x3) - via modding. Not sure if doable.
Additionally there are four G7e torpedos - TII/TIII/FAT/LUT.
Another four speed settings (maybe more if they can be converted to 'G7a types' - via modding. If so there would be 12 more speed settings).
We have two (or 3?) Homing torpedos. If it is possible to deactivate the acoustic warhead, you'll have two/three - or if convertable to G7a types six/nine - additional speed sets.

At best you could have 30 different speed settings. But you could have only six loaded into your tubes and some 20+ into a type IX (I don't know the capacity of a type IX - never played it in the last ten years). The XXI may have even more loadout?

You would have to make all torpedos available in your timeframe. This has been done.

Mittelwaechter 03-15-15 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawian (Post 2297333)
if there is no possibility to change torpedo speed, whole method is useless....

True. :yep:

Pawian 03-15-15 08:58 AM

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I even dont know what u talking about. I am newbie in sh3, and even dont know how to reload torpedos.

If there is no posibillity to choose torpedo speed, how i can torpedo correctly with mathematic method??

Dont say me anything about kinds of torpedo beacuse i dont understand.

btw. u be from Poland?

Mittelwaechter 03-15-15 09:09 AM

There are some clever and well written tutorials on how to sink ships with different grades of 'realism'. There are even Youtube clips showing how to do it.

There are some mods providing more and better tools to do the job.

I myself did a tutorial on sinking ships with hydrophone data only.

Great fun to learn all the stuff - and you are the right guy to do it. Never heared of a newbie working on trigonometric target solutions. :up:


Im your western neighbour. We built the iron coffins you're sailing in.

Pawian 03-15-15 09:12 AM

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During WW2 they count torpedo way with mathemathic, I want the same.

Where i can find mod that let me choose speed of torpedo??

Aktungbby 03-15-15 09:18 AM

welcome aboard!
 
Pawian!:Kaleun_Salute:

Mittelwaechter 03-15-15 09:21 AM

Yeah, they did 'count torpedo way with matemathic'. But the torpedo speed was given.

There is no mod available to give you torpedo speed by choice. It is unrealistic and would have to be made extra as a fun mod.

Goto Google: 'tutorial sh3 torpedo' and watch some Youtube.

This may be of help: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=96026

Pawian 03-15-15 09:27 AM

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Hmmmmm, Hmmmm
http://i57.tinypic.com/2qvwo7d.jpg

I have got idea.....are there torpedos that explode after choosen time?

Mittelwaechter 03-15-15 09:51 AM

Torpedos don't explode after chosen time but on impact, or by magnetic fuse passing a ships keel or premature due to earths magnetic field fooling the magnetic fuse.

Sailor Steve 03-15-15 09:51 AM

Hi, Pawian, and welcome aboard! :sunny:

What Mittelwaechter is trying to explain is that even in real life the torpedoes had three settings, and no more. They could not tell the torpedo what speed to run at, except for those three.
http://www.uboat.net/technical/torpedoes.htm

All calculations had to be based around that fact.


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