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Kaptlt.Endrass 05-01-14 05:56 PM

Best hunting grounds in the Atlantic: Input encouraged!!!
 
The name says it. Your opinion on the best hunting grounds in the Atlantic.
1940-41: Gulf of Wales. Large amounts of large cargos that are alone. Went in from Lorient with 14 fish and spent everything on merchants at Bristol and Merthyr harbors, both defended by lone ASW trawlers. Also expended all deck gun ammo, came back with 94% integrity only because I ran into a anti sub net. Patrol total, 60925 tons. (Side note:The merchants are almost all carrying ammo and fuel, and air cover is minimal. Was deck gunning two ships and jumped by Hurricanes, stayed on surface and took no damage.)

UKönig 05-01-14 07:52 PM

If you're talking about the most successful hunting in the Atlantic that I have ever found, then the award goes to New York City.
Tankers, small and large, merchants, all sizes, and best of all, passenger liners.
In vanilla SH3, the ocean liner is worth almost 25,000 tons. The reality, for the ship as depicted in the game, the tonnage is closer to 80,000.
For those interested, the liners Queen Elizabeth and Queen Mary (each about 80,000 tons) were converted to troopship duties during the war. At their peaks, they each carried about 15,000 soldiers to battlefields in Europe. In fact, if I remember correctly, Queen Mary still holds the record of most troops transported in a single crossing. It got so bad that hitler offered a bounty of 250,000 reichsmarks to any Uboat who could verify the sinking of either (preferably both).
Pros/cons
Pros: take north side of long island, if you can slip in undetected, destroyers will not think to follow you, they like to take the main gates.
Cons: at least 2 very shallow (10m or less) points, forcing you to surface and 2 choke points, requiring careful maneuvering. If you pick a bad time to do this (you'll know) you may have to deal with aircraft (bombers) with no AA. But if you can get past the choke points, into the harbour, the bombers cannot get you w/o hitting the city at large.
Best to dive at the bridges (brooklyn i think) or else everything in the harbour with a cannon will start shooting at you, even through the buildings (with no clear line of sight). It's a bit tricky trying to line up some shots with the piers in the way, but if you can pull it off, it can be very rewarding. Draft clearance is enough for a type 7 and 9 to operate, but not a 21.
If I save most of my fish from my patrol, I can usually add anywhere from 30-60,000 tons to my haul...

UKönig 05-01-14 08:08 PM

But if you hunger to challenge the best the British navy has to offer, well my friend, head on down to the straits of gibraltar, you won't have to wait long...

Kaptlt.Endrass 05-01-14 10:02 PM

Been there, done that my good fellow Kaluen. The U-65 was nearly sent to the briny deep that fateful night. In other news...

Jimbuna 05-02-14 04:51 AM

250km west of Gibraltar.

GreyBeard 05-02-14 06:45 AM

September 1939, Irish Sea. Not necessarily large cargo ships, but definitely lots of. A good start for a beginning career. :up:

:salute:

HW3 05-02-14 08:52 AM

My favorite areas are BE65 & AM52.

maillemaker 05-02-14 09:24 AM

Most of my best work comes with a Type IX as soon as you can get one.

Find lightly-escored convoys off the east cost of Britain, bait the escorts into a chase and kill them with down-the-throat magnetic torpedoes, then surface and use the deck gun and remaining torpedoes. If you find a pesky merchant with an early deck gun, you'll have to dispose of them first. I have on several occasions wiped out entire convoys.

Steve

flag4 05-02-14 10:22 AM

BF 13/15

Mittelwaechter 05-02-14 01:55 PM

AL 2/5 + AK 2/5

Herr-Berbunch 05-02-14 04:03 PM

In or abouts BF17 :yep:

And I've never hear of the Gulf of Wales before. :o

But definitely BF17 is worth the trip.

Jimbuna 05-03-14 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 2203148)
In or abouts BF17 :yep:

And I've never hear of the Gulf of Wales before. :o

But definitely BF17 is worth the trip.

Not far from the Irish Channel I believe.

irish1958 05-03-14 07:42 AM

WNW of the British Isles, the closer the better and the less safe.

Rammstein0991 05-03-14 12:46 PM

My best hunts (including nailing the Highland Brigade iirc) are north of Ireland, AM51-AM52-AM02

Early to mid war these grounds are packed to the gunnels with ships, many of whom travel alone, the pickings are so easy I have taken down dozens of (unescorted) merchants there with a deck gun alone. :arrgh!:

Aktungbby 05-03-14 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaptlt.Endrass (Post 2202866)
1940-41: Gulf of Wales.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 2203148)
And I've never hear of the Gulf of Wales before.

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2203275)
Not far from the Irish Channel I believe.

An extensive but thumbnail hunt for the 'Gulf of Wales' turns up NADA:down: however that body of considerable expanse to the east of the St George Straight and exclusive of the Bristol Straight is Cardigan Bay, proper. There are two more northerly Welsh named 'bays' as well. Interestingly, the Irish Sea and the Celtic Sea are not the same thing; a point I had not picked up on heretofore.:know: There is a Strait of Wales in the Canadian Archipelago which was a traverse of the fabled Northwest Passage but I don't believe the hunting is good there. A further perusal of my National Geographic World Atlas; vol VI. also shows nothing additional beyond my two included maps > http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/irishsea.gif http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...%2C_Canada.png


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