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Red Devil 02-02-14 10:15 AM

Ubisoft - Is It The Most Bugged?
 
I have Far Cry and Far Cry 2, SH4 - all by Ubisoft and all riddled with bugs.

One of the most frustrating and annoying is when loading a saved game in SH4 (any version) 'Passing Thermal Layer' is repeated every 5-8 seconds. I have to keep opening and closing game until it stops. Just done 3 save loads a moment ago and its still there and every save without pause - 'Weve got damage sir!!' as soon as save loads!


In FC2 a person has to have a charmed life to get through a full game, even falling through the game structure into 'never space'.

Ubisoft must be really bad how come they are still in business??? :/\\!! Brilliant ideas and very bad programming.

edit: ref thermal layer bug - I had to go back to leaving port, the bug is in the save.

Hinrich Schwab 02-02-14 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil (Post 2170737)
One of the most frustrating and annoying is when loading a saved game in SH4 (any version) 'Passing Thermal Layer' is repeated every 5-8 seconds. I have to keep opening and closing game until it stops. Just done 3 save loads a moment ago and its still there and every save without pause - 'Weve got damage sir!!' as soon as save loads!

Corrupted saves can be an issue for various reasons. What you did not clarify is whether you saved while submerged. NEVER save while submerged as all kinds of weirdness can show up. The instant damage bug is one of them, but this can also occur if you load a save made while using stock and then loading after applying a megamod. As far as Ubi still being in business, they do the same thing EA does; they buy out indie companies with successful products and use executive meddling to flood the market with rushed products and cash in before the public is aware of all the problems. By the time it is discovered, their bottom line is still black.

Sniper297 02-02-14 12:33 PM

Answer to the question is "no". That award goes to DW Bradley's "Wizards & Warriors", which beat out Bethesda's "The Elder Scrolls I: Arena" by a narrow margin. SH4 probably comes in about 50 on the all time list of 100 buggiest games, SH3 somewhere around 40. Blame the internet, before the internet was invented the game companies worked harder to remove most of the bugs and didn't post halfassed patches that made the bugs worse since patch distribution was slower and more difficult. SH4 does have less excuse for bugginess than other games since the physics and AI ain't really that complex.

Armistead 02-02-14 01:20 PM

If you save and reload a game, it will reprocess much of the existing info again. For instance, say you had several things damaged, it will repeat that message back to you for each item damage. Seems it did the same thing with torps fired, ect...

Can get irritating, just got to let it process through and your game should be fine...

neilbyrne 02-02-14 03:44 PM

The thing I've always hated about their FPS games is the inevitable scenario that you must get thru and can't because it's almost impossible. This and their gated save system can put you into situations where the only solution is to restart the game from the beginning.

Sniper297 02-02-14 08:29 PM

They probably spent more time and money on DRM than on physics and AI logic combined. My latest irritation is trying to put together a balanced mission, at one point I had 10 Northhampton heavy cruisers ganged up on a single Furutaka. The Furutaka was dead in the water early on, but with 90 eight inch guns against six that thing just would NOT sink. Instead half of the Northhamptons were DIW and the other half sunk after two hours of hammering. "Hit points"? Seriously? Couldn't have come up with better damage assessment than that? :down:

merc4ulfate 02-02-14 10:40 PM

I have never had an issue with with any game from any place being buggy. I have only had issues with mods that were added to them afterwards if they were not ordered correctly or compatibel with each other.

I know some play games where they are linked to web sites like steam or what ever. You can easily get corrupt packet transfers when playing that way and get bugs causes by those. I would not play a game I had to be connected to the internt to play with.

Anything could happen along the data transfer to cause the game to become unstable and if for some reason the line goes out for weather, ISP updates or simply a network card malfunction I can still play anything while those web dependent games could not.

TorpX 02-02-14 11:23 PM

I don't think highly of Ubisoft either.

While I don't have many CTD's, there are lots of things that are broken, poorly modeled, or unfinished, in the game. To my way of thinking, these constitute "bugs". I'm told some of these things worked better in SH3. This makes it all the more annoying.

Red Devil 02-03-14 05:00 AM

great replies and my thanks.

Saves have been on the surface, I learnt that 'trick' a long time ago.

merc4 - you should be in the guinness book of records and possibly the only person on the planet who never suffers ' bugs'

:arrgh!:

merc4ulfate 02-03-14 05:28 PM

I do not look for games or simulations based on eye candy. I find those with more stable platforms and those who have gracious communities such as subsim and it's wealth of knowledge.

All one must do is read game and mod documentation and previous post and most solutions can be found without asking a single question.

Red Devil 02-05-14 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by merc4ulfate (Post 2171271)
I do not look for games or simulations based on eye candy. I find those with more stable platforms and those who have gracious communities such as subsim and it's wealth of knowledge.

All one must do is read game and mod documentation and previous post and most solutions can be found without asking a single question.

unless its ubisoft :har:

TheMercinary60 02-06-14 08:52 PM

personally i dont mind Ubisoft so much, i just tend to take things with a grain of salt and realize nothing is perfect anymore. as far as i know they have their own specific set of games that i find hard pressed to find anywhere else and i just developed a take what you can get mentality i suppose.

Red Devil 02-07-14 04:44 AM

Good points ram; but the key phrase in your post was not perfect ANYMORE. For the costs of these, it bloody well should be! Development costs should also dictate that a company turn out well tried and tested products to ensure maximum retails. I agree Ubisoft do turn out a differnt sort of offering than most, but if its not right, people do not like it, fill forums with posts like these, and have a frustrated and angered attitude. And Ubisoft take zero notice.:arrgh!:

Admiral Halsey 02-10-14 01:37 AM

I guess i'm lucky because I never encounter bugs when I play SH4.(Ok I might get the occasional ship spawning in land but it's never anything worse.)

Red Devil 02-10-14 08:36 AM

Admiral, what ssytem specs do you use? I am on win 8.1 on my pc and win 7 on my laptop. SH4 is in both. Last night (lqaptop) SH4 crashed 'stopped working' when I just just completled an infiltration into the inner bays of Japan to drop off an agent - now THATS frustrating. :/\\!! This is not the first time it has 'stopped working' either. I am running RSRDC and SH4 is patched.


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