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Stealhead 12-25-13 02:58 PM

No one wants gifts given by this Santa
 
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4610418d.jpg

More Union Jack flyers.Top photo is a Brit as well look at the chopper shadow.
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/...psccfe577a.jpg

Wolferz 12-25-13 04:25 PM

Bring us some peace Poppa Noel.
Fitting gifts for the naughty.

Betonov 12-25-13 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2155811)

look at the chopper shadow.

Seaking :hmmm:

Penguin 12-25-13 06:18 PM

No one? Nah, I would love to receive a Gimpy + ammo :smug:, I have Hippies living on the other side of the street... :arrgh!:

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2155811)
Top photo is a Brit as well look at the chopper shadow.

Puma?

Oberon 12-25-13 07:54 PM

Could be a Merlin. although if it is then it's probably a picture from last year because I don't think we have any Merlins in 'stan at the moment.

I don't think we have any Sea Kings there either, they were replaced by the Merlins in 2011, but the Merlins transitioned out last year. Not sure about Pumas in 'stan, I think we do have some out there, although it could equally be a hired helo from another nation, that happens too.

Stealhead 12-25-13 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2155884)
Could be a Merlin. although if it is then it's probably a picture from last year because I don't think we have any Merlins in 'stan at the moment.

I don't think we have any Sea Kings there either, they were replaced by the Merlins in 2011, but the Merlins transitioned out last year. Not sure about Pumas in 'stan, I think we do have some out there, although it could equally be a hired helo from another nation, that happens too.

I have no idea how old the photo is could be a few years old but the gun is British,Canadian or Dutch the M240 has a different muzzle our aircraft mounted version almost always has spade grips.

I just realized that Penguin is in the second photo in the center behind the three dogs doing the double thumbs up but you only see the bottom of his beak must have been a slight bit warm for him.

Edit it is a Seaking I think judging from this photo
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...o_1549609i.jpg

Oberon 12-26-13 02:42 AM

Wow...you've got to admire the Sea King, I mean she's forty-four years old and still going strong. They're going to be phased out of our SAR operations in the coming couple of years as private companies take over the role, I will miss the old yellow giant thudding over the house.

Jimbuna 12-26-13 07:13 AM

Sure looks like a Sea King especially if the photo is pre 2012.

August 12-26-13 11:03 AM

Years later during a Futurama film festival a refugee from Afghanistan is sent into a violent flashback by this image:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YoY6DEkZ6-...rama+santa.jpg

Penguin 12-26-13 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2155905)
I have no idea how old the photo is could be a few years old but the gun is British,Canadian or Dutch the M240 has a different muzzle our aircraft mounted version almost always has spade grips.

I am pretty sure that it is a FN FAL - the Brits call it Gimpy, might not be a familiar term in the US.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2155905)
I just realized that Penguin is in the second photo in the center behind the three dogs doing the double thumbs up but you only see the bottom of his beak must have been a slight bit warm for him.

Indeed! :o The inappropriate clothing and goofy pose also fit - but I swear I'm a draft dodger! :)

Oberon 12-26-13 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 2156216)
I am pretty sure that it is a FN FAL - the Brits call it Gimpy, might not be a familiar term in the US.

FN MAG I believe, we call it the L7 or L8 General Purpose Machine Gun, or GPMG, or, as Penguin correctly states, the 'Gimpy'.

Jimbuna 12-26-13 03:00 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_MAG

http://s16.postimg.org/3wr7ujz39/cache_20250220.jpg

Penguin 12-26-13 03:27 PM

arrgh, yes, meant FN MAG, at least the link was to the right pic. :oops:

*grabs into excuse box* On German keyboards 'F' and 'M' and 'L' and 'G' are interchanged... reaggy! :know:

Oberon 12-26-13 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 2156246)
arrgh, yes, meant FN MAG, at least the link was to the right pic. :oops:

*grabs into excuse box* On German keyboards 'F' and 'M' and 'L' and 'G' are interchanged... reaggy! :know:

Shamemug dispgay! :O:

Stealhead 12-26-13 06:30 PM

Yeah it is an FN MAG what I am saying is that it is not the American version the ours(M240) has a smaller flash suppressor and some other details that are preferred by the US military.I am betting that it has different sight graduations as well.Of course if you can use one version of FNMAG you can use any version.

The US Army and USMC first used it as a coaxial MG to replace the M60 in 1977 it took them a while but by the mid 90's the USMC said "hey this gun is much better than the M60 and they converted some coax guns with a trigger and stock.Later the Army officially ordered the M240B that is why the M249 has lower number despite the fact that it was in use for nearly a decade before the 240 became the standard GPMG but received its number in 1977.

The UK was much wiser and adopted their version of the just a year or two after the FNMAG first was introduced.At that time the US would not touch foreign military designs with a ten foot pole despite the fact that the M60 was clearly a much crappier design.

I have no idea what the UK L7/8 has that differs from the Belgian original some UK military specific bits I suppose.The FNMAG took the good of the MG42 but made their own design and lowered the rate of fire they also moved the bipod towards the middle of the weapon which gave ti better balance not as good a tripod but it was better the previous standard of bipod near the muzzle.

The M60 on the other hand was American engineers looking at the Mg42 and the FG42 and trying to "improve" it.So they decided to attach the bipod to the gas tube and also make the gas tube and the barrel a single unit so when you swapped a barrel the 60 was in two pieces ideal for combat.The FNMAG stays in one piece and you simply remove the barrel replace and lay down some lead.

Both weapons showed up on the scene around 1958 the FN MAG 650-1,000 RPM the M60 500-650RPM and a horrible barrel change also it had a bad tendency to pull in reversed rounds during most of vietnam the only cure was tin can tac welded to the receiver.


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