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TarJak 12-13-13 01:52 PM

Salvage divers destroying war grave
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-1...vagers/5156320

This is a disgraceful act of vandalism. I'm not surprised but am annoyed that authorities have done nothing to stop the damage. I'm sure if it was an Indonesian grave in Australian waters we'd be hearing loud complaints from their government and media :nope:

Schroeder 12-13-13 04:36 PM

This is disgusting.:nope:
No dignity whatsoever.

August 12-13-13 04:39 PM

That must mean that the USS Houston, sunk in the same battle, is experiencing the same fate. :nope:

TarJak 12-13-13 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2151310)
That must mean that the USS Houston, sunk in the same battle, is experiencing the same fate. :nope:

One would expect that to be the case as the Houston is the (slightly) shallower dive of the two as Houston was closer to shore when sunk. Sad if that is the case.

Jimbuna 12-13-13 05:17 PM

Bad crack :nope:

Kapitan 12-14-13 01:25 PM

sadly its not just happening over there, but in Europe also.

The three WW1 cruisers HMS Aboukiur, houge and cressy which were sunk all on the same day just hours apart by the same submarine U-9 in 1914 20 miles of the coast of Holland, these three ships took down nearly 2000 people and sadly in 1954 the british government sold the salvage rights:/\\!!

Today two of the ships are upside down making salvage hard but the other ship is being stripped for commercial gains these should be a war grave.

August 12-14-13 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2151326)
One would expect that to be the case as the Houston is the (slightly) shallower dive of the two as Houston was closer to shore when sunk. Sad if that is the case.

The extraordinary bravery and fortitude of those two crews in the face of impossible odds deserves a better epitaph.

fireftr18 12-16-13 01:12 AM

I really don't know what to say. Who care's if the government is protecting the ships. It is really disgusting that people have no respect for others.
:Kaleun_Crying:

soopaman2 12-16-13 02:07 PM

Ship salvage.

Just capitalism.

Love it or move to china you reds.

Your war graves are resources, just like the dead dinosaur graves we call oil fields..

How come no one mourns them?

They died for us too.

RIP Velociraptor, Apatosaurus, gastonia...etc.

We kill each other over your remains.


Petty, and selfish. sorry, but the dead are far beyond giving a crap about thier bones.

Despicable yes, but not worthy of international outrage. I would rather see the banking factions regulated, than worry about some antique stiffs.

AVGWarhawk 12-16-13 02:45 PM

It nothing short of grave robbing.

Tango589 12-16-13 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2152352)
Your war graves are resources, just like the dead dinosaur graves we call oil fields..

How come no one mourns them?

They died for us too.

RIP Velociraptor, Apatosaurus, gastonia...etc.

We kill each other over your remains.

The difference is that nobody was alive to appreciate the dinosaurs when they were alive, whereas these sailors' ships were sunk and become graves still within peoples current lifetimes. It's the same as someone digging up your Great-Aunt Mary and selling her coffin for scrap wood and brass. The act is unconscionable.

TarJak 12-16-13 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2152352)
Ship salvage.

Just capitalism.

Love it or move to china you reds.

Your war graves are resources, just like the dead dinosaur graves we call oil fields..

How come no one mourns them?

They died for us too.

RIP Velociraptor, Apatosaurus, gastonia...etc.

We kill each other over your remains.


Petty, and selfish. sorry, but the dead are far beyond giving a crap about thier bones.

Despicable yes, but not worthy of international outrage. I would rather see the banking factions regulated, than worry about some antique stiffs.

Aside from the fact oilfields were largely formed from ancient swamps and forests and not dinosaurs. We're talking about people who died whose relatives are still around.

Are you sure you're ok with someone from another country digging up your grandmother for the brass fittings on her coffin? How about if it was your mother or father or your brother? That's what this equates to.

Tango589 12-16-13 02:58 PM

:sign_yeah:I second that!

Jimbuna 12-16-13 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2152374)
It nothing short of grave robbing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango589 (Post 2152381)
The difference is that nobody was alive to appreciate the dinosaurs when they were alive, whereas these sailors' ships were sunk and become graves still within peoples current lifetimes. It's the same as someone digging up your Great-Aunt Mary and selling her coffin for scrap wood and brass. The act is unconscionable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2152382)
Aside from the fact oilfields were largely formed from ancient swamps and forests and not dinosaurs. We're talking about people who died whose relatives are still around.

Are you sure you're ok with someone from another country digging up your grandmother for the brass fittings on her coffin? How about if it was your mother or father or your brother? That's what this equates to.

Yeah that :yep:

August 12-16-13 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango589 (Post 2152381)
The difference is that nobody was alive to appreciate the dinosaurs when they were alive, whereas these sailors' ships were sunk and become graves still within peoples current lifetimes. It's the same as someone digging up your Great-Aunt Mary and selling her coffin for scrap wood and brass. The act is unconscionable.


This ^

If it were a U-boat or other small craft i'd say as long as they remove the remains first then it'd be ok, but that's an impossible job with a cruiser or other large ship.


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